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Old 05-28-2007, 03:09 AM
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If the fight was taken place in a bigass warehouse, or a big court yard, IMO Bruce would pawn anyone.

IE: you cannot leave the 100ft X 100ft enclosure until someone is dead.

I think his agility, would def help in this environment. In a small cage, I think he would die though.

This conclusion is based on nothing, BTW. Just random opinion.

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This is actually a much better idea than you might think. Lee placed a huge premium on being slippery and hard to get at; he knew that however hard he could hit, he didn't have the frame to take a lot of hitting. Even teenagers towered over him and looked like mooses(meese?) in comparison.

He combined that with an emphasis on a quick long-distance close. Lee trained to be adaptable, but he knew that he had limits, like everyone does. A small guy like him needed to clash when the time was ideal. He couldn't just sit toe to toe there slugging it out and hoping one of his haymakers would hit harder than the next guy's, or that he could absorb as much punishment as the next guy until a lucky shot won the day.

His power might well win the day. It was, by the accounts of his contemporaries, astonishing. And it was far from his only attribute. Additionally, his original training was in Wing Chun, a style that specializes in close-in fighting and is extremely comfortable with it, even against larger opponents. His infighting skill might well win the day. But he knew his ability to absorb punishment was a huge achilles heel. The risk of a blow, or a few blows, was inordinately high to him, even if the risk was quite small. And it was. But, he was, simply, small.

His style and frame would benefit enormously from freedom to move. His superlative infighting skills from Wing Chun would make him very comfortable once a "bridge" between fighters was established, so long as he could stay standing. But he needed to keep control over when and how that bridge was established. A large arena would be ideal for him to do so.

By the time he died, he had become very successful at doing that. You might call it "ring generalship," as boxing does. As he had become so successful at establishing command of space while in a standing battle, he faced a natural progression:

1) Train to do the same while not standing, and to resist attempts at takedowns, and
2) Make movies for jillions of dollars. At the time of his death, he was offered the highest salary ever paid a movie star for his next movie.

What would he have done? Being a die-hard burn the candle at both ends kinda guy, if he didn't die so young, he almost certainly would have traded severely on his health to try to do both things at once, which was extremely difficult. But if anyone saw the future, it was this guy. Undoubtedly he would have expanded his training. Given the choice between martial arts and acting, he had always chosen martial arts. He likely would have found it spiritually impossible to sit on his laurels and not improve his martial arts. It just wasn't the way he was made.
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Old 05-28-2007, 03:11 AM
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If bruce lee doesnt knock someone with wrestling skills out before getting taken to the ground, hes [censored]. End of story.

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If a wrestler doesn't take him to the ground quick, he's [censored] too. End of that story.

This is silly, you know.
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Old 05-28-2007, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: Bruce Lee vs. any PFC fighter, who would win?

fwiw, wiki has him at 165 at his peak.
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Old 05-28-2007, 04:04 AM
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fwiw, wiki has him at 165 at his peak.

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Complete baloney. At near 6'2" I weighed only 10 pounds more when I was in his kind of shape. He was 5'6". 165 is obscenely high for him. This is a guy who drank raw beef blood to try to keep weight on.
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Old 05-28-2007, 05:30 AM
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Default Re: Bruce Lee vs. any PFC fighter, who would win?

Penultimate Fighting Championship?
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Old 05-28-2007, 08:56 AM
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HAHAHAHAHAH. LOLOLOLOL. I hope you are joking. He wouldn't even be in the top 50 if you counted all weight classes. His odds of beating Fedor are about the same as my odds of getting struck by lightning tommorrow when I leave the house.

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We can only hope. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Bruce would win via 1st round KO vs. Fedor. Fedor would never see the knockout punch coming.
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Old 05-28-2007, 08:58 AM
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Default Re: Bruce Lee vs. any PFC fighter, who would win?

Penultimate Fighting Championship?

2+2 2.0 should have post by post voting so I could rate this funny without actually wasting a reply.
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Old 05-28-2007, 09:46 AM
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With the skills he had at the time of his death, no.

But, Bruce was a great athlete who surely could've learned the skills necessary to compete in MMA.

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Old 05-28-2007, 10:18 AM
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hey everyone who thinks bruce lee was so great. i just read jackie chan's autobiography and he talks a few pages about bruce lee who he worked with. jackie says what made Lee great wasn't his martial arts skils which he said were solid but he was not close to the best. he said it was Lee's prescene in a room, his drive and his movie making and martial arts all combined.

thoughts?
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Old 05-28-2007, 10:24 AM
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There probably wouldn't be an MMA without Lee's enormous influence having paved the way.

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Bruce Lee was way ahead of his time as far as MMA, but where is the causal link between Bruce Lee and the birth of MMA? I don't see it.
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