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Old 05-24-2007, 03:19 PM
shaundeeb shaundeeb is offline
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Default Home run?

I have the perfect hand and perfect spot for this hand from 201r 1a it's 5min till addon period. Plays been tight so I expect big pairs and big hands from all.


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UTG+1 (t2710)
Hero (t7385)
MP2 (t3245)
MP3 (t900)
CO (t2530)
Button (t1790)
SB (t6360)
BB (t2280)
UTG (t8920)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t800</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t900</font>, CO calls t900, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t2280</font>, Hero calls t1980, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t3245</font>, CO folds, Hero calls t965.
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Home run?

What are you trying to do here?
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:37 PM
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Trying to show us how to blow 1/3rd of our stack with 6 high.
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:40 PM
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I open fold and just take my 9k after the break.

Once the BB shoves, you don't have reason to believe MP2 is folding. Right before the add-on, that's a serious 3-bet whether he knows you or not. By calling the 1980, you effectively calling 3k, by this reasoning to win a little under 8k? I don't like it, personally.
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Old 05-24-2007, 03:42 PM
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I guess it wasn't clear I wanted this to be multiway hence my call and not isoshove.
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:01 PM
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I guess it wasn't clear I wanted this to be multiway hence my call and not isoshove.

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I got it, and obviously you want as many players in the hand as possible considering if 56s beats an overpair you're most likely beating anyone in the hand.

That said, I don't hhhhhaaaate this, but I don't think I like it either. I definitely make plays similar to this sometimes, especially in RAOs, but I'm not sure on this one. You are getting pretty good odds though and there are sidepots, so maybe it's alright?
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Old 05-24-2007, 04:04 PM
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I wouldn't do it but would love to see the chat after you take their stacks
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Old 05-24-2007, 05:03 PM
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Once the BB shoves, you don't have reason to believe MP2 is folding. Right before the add-on, that's a serious 3-bet whether he knows you or not. By calling the 1980, you effectively calling 3k, by this reasoning to win a little under 8k? I don't like it, personally.

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If your equity is 25%, what am I missing here?
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Old 05-24-2007, 05:12 PM
WarDekar WarDekar is offline
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His point was they had monsters, if any of the side pots he was playing for wasn't against a monster his equity was higher, plus the 25% he quoted doesn't even tell us what his equity was on the side-pots.

Even if this particular instance was slightly -cEV, doesn't meant the play wasn't, and as I said earlier the difference in that stack he'll have is quite big if he wins this hand.

Oh and after you raised PF you kinda have to go ahead and call everything else because this is exactly the situation you want with SCs - risking a smaller portion of your stack up against multiple opponents to get a huge stack. This is the ideal situation if you're raising 56s to begin with IMO.
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Old 05-24-2007, 05:17 PM
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His point was they had monsters, if any of the side pots he was playing for wasn't against a monster his equity was higher, plus the 25% he quoted doesn't even tell us what his equity was on the side-pots.

Even if this particular instance was slightly -cEV, doesn't meant the play wasn't, and as I said earlier the difference in that stack he'll have is quite big if he wins this hand.

Oh and after you raised PF you kinda have to go ahead and call everything else because this is exactly the situation you want with SCs - risking a smaller portion of your stack up against multiple opponents to get a huge stack. This is the ideal situation if you're raising 56s to begin with IMO.

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I see. I don't want Deebers at my table with 16-18k after the break, let alone 18k.

Considering the hands he'd have to hit to rake it in, are the side pots much of an issue?

I'm not being argumentative. Just asking. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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