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Old 05-02-2007, 02:01 PM
IshiP2U IshiP2U is offline
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Sweir,

Yes! There are definitely some horrible plays! That's the point buddy! If you view poker as a game of winning pots then I'm probably the uNLer around since I'm playing to lose many of them. As for leaks I dunno pal, I did run at like 15PTBB/100 over about 30k hands playing this style at NL25 and NL50 before trying it at higher stakes. Lol @ feedback being "pretty horrible plays" though, nice way to facilitate discussion, though I can see how it can be like "wtf" and kind of hard to comment on. No it was not just a one off and this is not me saying this is way to play poker, as I said. This is "how-I" not a "how-to" and I definitely don't always play this style. No, this is not a one off, and this was actually the second take because the first take turned out to be 1 hr 40 mins long and the audio got out of sync, but I'm happy to post that one or edit it down. You'd really really like that one, as I stack off with 2nd pair no kicker as advertisement, then stack the same guy like 2 hands later, and get 300BB deep.
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:39 PM
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the first take turned out to be 1 hr 40 mins long and the audio got out of sync, but I'm happy to post that one or edit it down.

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Yes please.
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:06 PM
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Lol ... I've watched this now.


I can't see any horrid plays actually, the horridness is 'only' against the very short stacks, but handvalues run close pf anyway, so at worst those are 1-2$ mistakes, and sinvce the shortstack will be covered they can still be stacked for all that is lost.


The morale of this vid is this.


The 'TAGs' at 25NL (and this actually means a lot of this forum tbh) are mindless. As said, they have their 'system', multitable and will not deviate from this system. It is what they believe is higher pokerunderstanding. (And that is why I might get yelled at when I open Q6s from the CO), so while I appreciate your attempt to open them up, it can be very very hard, tho not impossible.

Perhaps you should find one of these guys sit at several of his tables and donk it up.


So what is the most valueable lesson here ?


It is to target the singletablers, preferably on your right and gamble it up with them.

But OP has more reading skill than most at this level, still it is a healthy exercide and one I spent most of last month on (in the process dropping 4000$ ... do'h)


But dynamics, dynamics dynamics !!!!!!!!!!!!! can't be stressed enough.
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:01 PM
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Sweir,

Yes! There are definitely some horrible plays! That's the point buddy! If you view poker as a game of winning pots then I'm probably the uNLer around since I'm playing to lose many of them. As for leaks I dunno pal, I did run at like 15PTBB/100 over about 30k hands playing this style at NL25 and NL50 before trying it at higher stakes. Lol @ feedback being "pretty horrible plays" though, nice way to facilitate discussion, though I can see how it can be like "wtf" and kind of hard to comment on. No it was not just a one off and this is not me saying this is way to play poker, as I said. This is "how-I" not a "how-to" and I definitely don't always play this style. No, this is not a one off, and this was actually the second take because the first take turned out to be 1 hr 40 mins long and the audio got out of sync, but I'm happy to post that one or edit it down. You'd really really like that one, as I stack off with 2nd pair no kicker as advertisement, then stack the same guy like 2 hands later, and get 300BB deep.

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The thing is this:

For those of us playing x tables and TAGish style these plays are just so off the wall that it is a bit hard to digest. I got inspired too and thought what the hell I'll give it a go for kicks.

I lost three buyins at NL25 in 6 minutes - I kid you not.

I'd love to see the other video and any more stuff you do.
Even if I might honestly never ever try this again it is very refreshing to see a whole different approach and take on what is the essentials of this game.

(Sidenote: after stacking off twice I turned on my HUD to compare my reads with the stats. Calling them reads is a [censored] joke. I have no clue...need to work on that obv...)

Keep em coming. I'll help if I can. Overall entertainment value alone is worth it.
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:02 PM
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Sweir,

Yes! There are definitely some horrible plays! That's the point buddy! If you view poker as a game of winning pots then I'm probably the uNLer around since I'm playing to lose many of them. As for leaks I dunno pal, I did run at like 15PTBB/100 over about 30k hands playing this style at NL25 and NL50 before trying it at higher stakes. Lol @ feedback being "pretty horrible plays" though, nice way to facilitate discussion, though I can see how it can be like "wtf" and kind of hard to comment on. No it was not just a one off and this is not me saying this is way to play poker, as I said. This is "how-I" not a "how-to" and I definitely don't always play this style. No, this is not a one off, and this was actually the second take because the first take turned out to be 1 hr 40 mins long and the audio got out of sync, but I'm happy to post that one or edit it down. You'd really really like that one, as I stack off with 2nd pair no kicker as advertisement, then stack the same guy like 2 hands later, and get 300BB deep.

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I can prolly fix the audio problem if u host the other video.
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Old 05-02-2007, 05:25 PM
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Def. interesting, but I am really looking forward to step two, "the revenge of the multi-tablig tags". That is the part I always mess up.

I think you really played an excellent read-based game, but why limp K4o in the CO?
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Old 05-02-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: NL25 Video From MSNLer

Also.. if you really want people to play back at u.. sit at 50nl
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:05 PM
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Certainly I'll make one at NL50 as well sometime in the future...as it is more fun then. I'll probably do one or two more at NL25 and then NL50 so that I can talk about playing reraised pots. I limped K4 in the CO because I thought the shortstacker would felt any piece of the flop (lucky me, that's what happened), I felt I had very good implied odds with that hand against that player by just limping.
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:06 PM
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Also, somebody just told me the vid is at 1 hand behind the speech, is anybody else having problems with this?
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:23 PM
TilTandWiN TilTandWiN is offline
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HELP - I really want to watch - my computer has itunes, windows media player and real player but none of these work!

What do i do to get it to play? If you help, you are a god.
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