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Old 04-19-2007, 11:15 PM
Assani Fisher Assani Fisher is offline
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And now you're contradicting yourself. You were just talking about how awesome defensively Noah is and what good size he has, well if thats true he should be able to stop a guy who's been ripped on all season for being underdeveloped offensively. Especially if he's supposedly good enough defensively that it'll be enough to make up for his lack of scoring ability. There's a reason most teams fans that end up in the range that noah could fall in are gonna be sitting hoping their teams don't draft him.

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He has good size FOR A POWER FORWARD. Saying that hes a good defensive power forward in no way implies that he should be able to shut down one of the most physically imposing centers in college basketball all by himself. Yes, I realize that Oden doesn't have great post moves. That doesn't change the fact that hes a monster. Its simply a different position, and Noah will not be asked to guard the other team's center one-on-one at the next level, especially when center is the strength of the other team.

What do you dislike about Noah? I've found that nearly everyone who dislikes him does so because of personal feelings against him.
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:15 PM
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I can't imagine any team would take Horford over Brandan Wright. Well I can imagine it because NBA GM's are idiots but it would be a huge mistake IMO.
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:18 PM
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Brewer goes top 5 for sure.

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wow wtf, a team wins a national championship and suddenly everybody thinks their team is full of top nba players.

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Please. Just as Noah has a game that obviously doesn't translate to the NBA, Brewer's game simply SCREAMS NBA. Has the size and defense to crack almost any starting lineup immediately and has plenty of offensive tools as well.

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I like Brewer, there's just other players I'd take over him at his position. obviously those being Jeff Green and Julian Wright. Really if the draft order stays as is, the only top 5 team I could see taking Brewer is the Suns.

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I just think Julian is inferior in every aspect of the game to Brewer. I'm shocked you would think that as I'm sure you've watched them both play. Frankly, Julian is at least a year, maybe two away from being ready for more than 15mpg in the NBA IMO.
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:19 PM
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p.s. because apparently there is some confusion, the mock draft is basically who i would take in each spot, not a prediction of the actual draft.

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unless your saying you know better than the teams regular gm's than it should be pretty similar

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lots of nba GMs do a lot of stupid [censored](see Isiah Thomas). To try to predict the random insanity in some GMs mind that is going to determine their team's draft pick is a lot harder than just looking at a team's need and going with who I would pick in their spot.
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:20 PM
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I can't imagine any team would take Horford over Brandan Wright. Well I can imagine it because NBA GM's are idiots but it would be a huge mistake IMO.

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Only a team that is more concerned with winning next season than getting the player with the best upside would aka the suns.
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:32 PM
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3. Milwaukee – Jeff Green SF/PF Georgetown

Probably the toughest pick out of any team. The Bucks could go potential and take Brandan Wright, go for the experience of a guy like Al Horford, or go for the versatility, athleticism and upside that they need with a guy like Julian Wright or Jeff Green. Put to a decision I’m taking Green. Can play either SF or PF, athletic, ability to play inside and outside. Everything about him is what the Bucks really need on their team.


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Jeff Green has a much much greater shot of being picked outside the lottery than making the top 3. I don't know what you see in him that I don't, but his upside is pretty much a mid level star like Lamar Odom(without the outside shot). He'll probably stick around as a very good role player due to his passing and defense, but theres no way he goes top 3 imo.

Nearly every mock draft I've seen has Wright and Horford as the concensus 3 and 4. I'm not sure why exactly you don't like Wright for them. Hes going to take 2 or 3 years before hes a superstar, so playing him behind Charlie Villy isn't that big of a deal. And CV isn't really a star player where you should not draft another PF just because of him.

I do agree with your thought process that the Bucks have needs mostly at SF and then PG. Because of this I could see them trading down.

Even still, I'd much rather have C Brewer than J Green.

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Wright is a horrible pick for them. This is a team that despite their poor showing due to injuries this season has thoughts of being a contender next season, especially if they are able to acquire Chauncey Billups in the offseason as has been often hinted at. Bogut and CV are the frontcourt of that team and they have other players that can contribute quality minutes upfront. Their biggest whole is easily that they have no one even remotely reliable at SF. If Simmons is healthy its a different story, but there's no reason to think that will be the case. Jeff Green at 3 is likely a little high, but if I'm the Bucks and I end up with the #3 pick and cant trade down, I'm taking Jeff Green.

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I agree with you mostly, but I think that you're underestimating the upside of Wright. Imo you don't pass that up for a career mid level guy like Green. Trading down makes a lot more sense than taking Green imo. And other than Maryland, I root for Georgetown, so I'm not biased.
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:39 PM
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lots of nba GMs do a lot of stupid [censored](see Isiah Thomas)

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Hasn't he actually been pretty good in the draft itself though?
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:41 PM
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lots of nba GMs do a lot of stupid [censored](see Isiah Thomas)

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Hasn't he actually been pretty good in the draft itself though?

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on the rare occassion that he actually has a draft pick, yes. that wasn't meant as a rip on isiah's draft history, just an example of GMs doing stupid [censored]. I actually should've said "see Billy Knight"
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:48 PM
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I think Green projects better as a PF than a SF in the NBA. He doesn't yet have the handle or shot to be an effective 3.
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:15 AM
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What do you dislike about Noah?

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Not a whole lot, except for his ugly, ugly shot. I think you're right that he'll be an NBA starter / big minute guy for a long time. I just don't think he's a top 7 or 8 pick.
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