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04-18-2007, 12:22 AM
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Re: Can Someone Explain Hunting to Me?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Well, many sport hunters are aware that they are doing the animal population some good by helping keep the herds down to healthy levels. [/ QUOTE ] Again this is probably because I'm a wimpy non-gun-owning city guy... but there's a big difference to me between "helping the animal population" and "shooting a defenseless deer". My assumption is that the act of shooting the defenseless animal involves SOME sort of enjoyment on the part of the hunter. It's not like he wakes up on a Saturday morning and says, "damn I hate shooting deer but I've got a moral duty to help their overpopulation problem." [/ QUOTE ] True, but I don't think the enjoyment necessarily comes from killing a living creature. It comes from the challenge of the hunt. Let me put it this way: if someone invented mechanical deer that behaved and looked exactly like real deer, I bet most hunters would have no problems hunting the mechanical deer. [/ QUOTE ] Can't eat a mechanical deer... 
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04-18-2007, 01:35 AM
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[ QUOTE ] Well, many sport hunters are aware that they are doing the animal population some good by helping keep the herds down to healthy levels. [/ QUOTE ] Again this is probably because I'm a wimpy non-gun-owning city guy... but there's a big difference to me between "helping the animal population" and "shooting a defenseless deer". My assumption is that the act of shooting the defenseless animal involves SOME sort of enjoyment on the part of the hunter. It's not like he wakes up on a Saturday morning and says, "damn I hate shooting deer but I've got a moral duty to help their overpopulation problem." [/ QUOTE ] You are probably right about what the hunter may or may not be thinking - but, helping the deer population literally IS "shooting a defenseless deer". Feel free to investigate this further but it really is necessary. All conservation and wildlife groups will agree with that statement. By the way, I've never shot a deer, but I'm thinking right now that I have been neglecting my duty to help keep the herds in check. I must say I actually feel a bit guilty about it. If I liked the taste of deer meat, though (which I don't), I'd probably feel a lot more guilty for my shirking.
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04-18-2007, 01:40 AM
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04-18-2007, 01:42 AM
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Also for states with high deer populations, deer are a real killer on the roads.
CNN article [ QUOTE ] By the way, I've never shot a deer, but I'm thinking right now that I have been neglecting my duty to help keep the herds in check. I must say I actually feel a bit guilty about it. If I liked the taste of deer meat, though (which I don't), I'd probably feel a lot more guilty for my shirking. [/ QUOTE ] Venison jerky ftw! But if you want to relieve some of that guilt and feel good doing it, donate the meat to your DNR.
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#37
04-18-2007, 01:45 AM
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Yeah, but nothing dies a violent death when you get your kicks playing on-line poker. [/ QUOTE ] True, and the comparison applies not only to hunting, but equally to paying to have animals slaughtered for your meals. Do people who eat beef get their kicks thinking about cows being led to their violent deaths in the slaughterhouses? Would it matter if they did?
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#38
04-18-2007, 02:06 AM
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I did not read the replies in this thread, but here is my reply (sorry if I repeat anything).
First of all, hunting is not just about killing stuff, it is also about being in the great outdoors and just being able to get away from everything and be at one with nature. Also, 99.9% of hunters despise those who are just out there for the kill. If you do not eat what you kill or donate the meat to charity, you are truely scum. Also, have you talked to any biologists? If it were not for hunters, many more deer (or other animals) that we kill would die much more painful deaths throughout the winter as they starved to death. True, this problem has been brought upon ourselves to some degree, as most natural predators have already been elimintated by humans, but there is nothing we can do about that now (other than try to hunt to take their place), without completely changing how society operates (such as stopping all urban sprawl and rebuilding the wetlands and other wildlife refuges -- but we all know that will never happen, even though almost every hunter wishes it would). Hunters and fisherman (in general) are probably the biggest conversationalists you will ever meet.
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#39
04-18-2007, 02:44 AM
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Hunters and fisherman (in general) are probably the biggest conversationalists you will ever meet. [/ QUOTE ] What do they like to talk about? Hunting and fishing, I suppose.
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#40
04-18-2007, 02:50 AM
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I was raised in az/florida and my dad and all his friends were hunters. I did it up until like college. Was never big on the bigger animals personally but enjoyed hunting with a dog for pheasants, rabbits etc cuz i enjoyed eating what I took down.
Im big on the outdoors etc and take a rifle with me for shooting purposes but i'm pretty much over big game hunting...would rather spend days tracking and backpacking to take great photo shots like that crap u see on Planet Earth then shoot the animals. My dad used to still hunt but he had been going up to Alaska a bunch as he really got hardcore into fishing and he did some hunting while up there to. He went caribou hunting and he ended up getting charged by a brown bear. Luckily it was a bluff charge cuz when he went to shoot at it he realized the safety was on(side note...he got drunk with some friends and admitted he [censored] his pants at the time it happened). I don't think he hunts much anymore...he was always really into the man vs. beast aspect of it. Would go with a guide and track the animals...be gone for weeks hunting buffalo, deer, mountain goats, mountain lions once i think...may be wrong...crazy crap like that. 1/2 the time he never killed anything but seemed to enjoy the process in his own way. Now he fishes like crazy. Just last year he told me about how great the fishing is at night near his place in florida...he was thinking of taking his float tube and fishing out in the water along the docks etc...I then informed he was a [censored] idiot.
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