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03-21-2007, 07:46 PM
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MyName - I just joined this board haven't looked through it thoroughly. The board keeps crashing everytime I try to do a search by poster name. To be fair Ricky's not claiming "hey I've been vetted, that's my justification", that was another poster backing Ricky up. And of course, Ricky has alot of incentive not to reveal his sources. -Al [/ QUOTE ] Yes I get why he wouldn't reveal his sources, but if you're going to make outlandish claims without backing them up only Mormons and Scientologists will believe you. Whatever incentive Ricky has to not reveal his sources, Fox has 100x the incentive to make sure the voting is legit. If this turned into the quiz show scandal of the 50s they would lose a successful franchise. 
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#33
03-21-2007, 07:52 PM
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Re: The \"Real\" Top 12 Results
Another fact about Ricky that I learned from reading his posts over the past couple days - He's a huge douchebag. And an attention whore.
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#34
03-21-2007, 07:59 PM
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Another fact about Ricky that I learned from reading his posts over the past couple days - He's a huge douchebag. And an attention whore. [/ QUOTE ] Sounds like the kind of guy who would want to stir up a false conspiracy theory.
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#35
03-21-2007, 08:02 PM
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As to the 'correct' spoiling of the top-24, I would like to go back and see how this was done, because I'm more and more inclined to believe this is sleight of hand. [/ QUOTE ] The top 24 show was aired on Feb 14th. In this thread we tracked the spoilers Ricky was coming up with. As you can see from revolts33's post on 2/7, Rickey already had the complete lists of the final 24. Only the girls are copied and pasted by revolts33 but trust me, he had the guys listed too. In that list you can see that the last 4 girls listed are first name only. He had everything correct. The reason there were no last names is because these people had NEVER been shown on any AI6 show yet. He only got first names from his source. His top 24 came a full week in advance of the show airing and NONE of it was wrong.
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#36
03-21-2007, 08:11 PM
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Re: The \"Real\" Top 12 Results
you guys are ridiculous if you expect this guy to give up his sources.....
and he was 100% correct on top 24 spoilers weeks and weeks before the shows aired..... what more do you guys want? and NO ONE DISPUTES THAT THE PRODUCERS HAVE HUGE LEEWAY ON POWER VOTING ETC..... and i'd think that the voting is reasonably close up until the top 2-3. so where's the controversy/problem? they are honest that they are able to change the voting totals due to irregularities (and it seems absolute power... AI producers are covered.
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#37
03-21-2007, 08:16 PM
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you guys are ridiculous if you expect this guy to give up his sources..... [/ QUOTE ] Has anyone said that? [ QUOTE ] and NO ONE DISPUTES THAT THE PRODUCERS HAVE HUGE LEEWAY ON POWER VOTING ETC..... and i'd think that the voting is reasonably close up until the top 2-3. so where's the controversy/problem? they are honest that they are able to change the voting totals due to irregularities (and it seems absolute power... AI producers are covered. [/ QUOTE ] Whether or not Ricky is correct - due to technicalities / qualifying votes, whatever, the producers could easily manipulate vote tallies and have it be "legit". I'm kind of playing devil's advocate on both side - my guess is that the votes are certified legit, but how they got to "certified legit" could easily involve producer manipulation, without the chance of a scandal. -Al
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#38
03-21-2007, 08:29 PM
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and NO ONE DISPUTES THAT THE PRODUCERS HAVE HUGE LEEWAY ON POWER VOTING ETC..... [/ QUOTE ] ok, let's think this out. some douchebag on an anonymous forum is close enough to the vote tally numbers to get the "real" results, but his source is not privvy to the final choice the producers make? i can assure you that if there is some votes tossed out, it is done instantly. if the guy were claiming to be an employee of the auditing firm or the phone service, he would not have info on things like song choices and T24. regardless, i expect gina to be gone because america does not like hard rock songs on this show. when does the next "rockstar(insert bandname here)" start?? that's GREAT music.
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#39
03-21-2007, 08:51 PM
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[ QUOTE ] you guys are ridiculous if you expect this guy to give up his sources..... [/ QUOTE ] Has anyone said that? I read thru quickly but i thought i saw that sentiment..... sorry if that wasn't accurate or i was painting lots of people based on one comment. [/ QUOTE ] i think these guys are lawyered up 100% as to have tons and tons of leeway in interpreting the voting results. interestingly, apparently (and from reading quickly again), ricky is saying the producers want sanjaya off really badly... i'm confused, i'd guess he's amazing for ratings. probably better than all the others combined.... but they got rid of covias somewhat suspiciously last year (although DI missed on others too and there is that large MOE)
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#40
03-21-2007, 10:07 PM
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So, we're supposed to believe that AI lied to us about the bottom 3? (I'm criticizing the guy on IdolForums, not you). [/ QUOTE ] In watching the results I notice Ryan never says, "These are the bottom 3 votegetters". He says, "America here is your bottom 3". It seems like a small difference, but phrasing it that way gives the producers leeway to pretty much put whoever they want in the bottom 3. This guy has been so on the money with everything that I'm not discounting anything he says, including his voting results.
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