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Old 02-22-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: Can an abc predictable preflop player beat 100-200?

Do alot of people here bluff raise the river? I barely do this. But have found a player that i have started to play with that this play makes perfect sense as he makes and am gonna try it on him. The problem is i can probably only get away with it once i think as he'll look me up if he ever sees this outrageous play again. But maybe that good because i'll have the goods more often. But in general i dont know too many players bluff rasing the river on a regualr basis.
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Old 02-22-2007, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: Can an abc predictable preflop player beat 100-200?

See the counter argument to this would be the predictable player is waiting to pick off the spewing thinking player. In a sense catch him with his pants down. He's getting out there stealing with alot of cheese and i'm sitting back waiting for big hands to pound him with.
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Old 02-22-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: Can an abc predictable preflop player beat 100-200?

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See the counter argument to this would be the predictable player is waiting to pick off the spewing thinking player. In a sense catch him with his pants down. He's getting out there stealing with alot of cheese and i'm sitting back waiting for big hands to pound him with.

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lol. This strategy would probably mot work even at 15/30. If this was all that were required, there'd be MANY thousands of people crushing 100/200.
I don't think you have any inkling of the true dynamics of these games.
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Old 02-22-2007, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: Can an abc predictable preflop player beat 100-200?

That's a good thought. There are, essentially, two types of player who play different (that is, non-ABC) from the crowd: the great and the dismal.
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Old 02-22-2007, 06:09 PM
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No because many thousands of people don't play solid poker. In fact most people don't. It amazing how little do. If they did they would win. There is a reason only 5 percent of all poker players win! You keep thinking its about playing cheese. Maybe it justifies your spewing in your mind. Poker is poker. Don't tell me solid play doesn't get the money. If it doesn't i don't know how i won all these years. Sure you should play the hands you play sometimes creatively but its not all about plaiyng loose aggressive spewing.
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Old 02-22-2007, 06:44 PM
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No because many thousands of people don't play solid poker. In fact most people don't. It amazing how little do. If they did they would win. There is a reason only 5 percent of all poker players win! You keep thinking its about playing cheese. Maybe it justifies your spewing in your mind. Poker is poker. Don't tell me solid play doesn't get the money. If it doesn't i don't know how i won all these years. Sure you should play the hands you play sometimes creatively but its not all about plaiyng loose aggressive spewing.

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so why did you ask the question?
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Old 02-22-2007, 06:46 PM
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See the counter argument to this would be the predictable player is waiting to pick off the spewing thinking player. In a sense catch him with his pants down. He's getting out there stealing with alot of cheese and i'm sitting back waiting for big hands to pound him with.

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I can't believe nobody ever thought of this strategy. It is flawless and inexploitable. I am now going to employ your strategy and move up to 100/200 now. let us gogogogo
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Old 02-22-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: Can an abc predictable preflop player beat 100-200?

To see what other thought. Because i know there are many that mock the abc guys. But the abc guys usually get the money.
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Old 02-22-2007, 07:58 PM
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Thats the whole point. It IS flawless and unexploitable. The people that are exploitable are the laggy's that are making donkey plays getting caught with there pants down. When they are making donkey plays they are hands that are not profitable from the positions they are playing them. They think they can overcome this by "outplaying" the opponent postflop. Maybe they can maybe they can't. That is the argument isn't it? I say they can't.
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Old 02-22-2007, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: Can an abc predictable preflop player beat 100-200?

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You can beat any game if your opponent's play is predictable. If you're predictable you'll lose in a games if it's full of thinking players.

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like many things in poker I think these things depend on relative values.

"how" predictable
"how" spewy
"how" abc....etc.

If I played 100% predictably and simultaneously perfect game theoretical limit poker, is that exploitable? Is that possible?
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