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#31
02-21-2007, 10:46 PM
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Re: AA check, and call
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[ QUOTE ] Didn't someone post a hand almost exactly like this a few months ago? I'm not sure if the guy coldcalled preflop or if hero 3-bet preflop from the blinds but the flop was paired and the postflop action was identical and hero had AA or KK. [/ QUOTE ] and? [/ QUOTE ] Lol, good one. It would probably be worthwhile to see what everyone said in that thread. 
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#32
02-21-2007, 10:52 PM
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Re: AA check, and call
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[ QUOTE ] Also, when you raise and he has QJ he has to be pretty confused as to what you have. I think a J will often not 3 bet here thinking that you have to have A4s or maybe a bluff which you would not call a 3 bet anyway. [/ QUOTE ] i find it hard to beleive a j is not 3towning a river c/r. [/ QUOTE ] But he's folding 77? [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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#33
02-22-2007, 12:09 AM
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Re: AA check, and call
i think you are likely to get raised on the turn on this kind of board by such a player but he is just as likely to raise you with a mid pocket pair as he is with a jack. A lot of times he will check behind on the river and YHIG. Its two bets either way and sometimes he might make a mistake and try to value bet the river. I am comfortable putting in 3 bb here after the turn either way so i would just prefer to bet the turn and call down.
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#34
02-22-2007, 12:50 AM
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Re: AA check, and call
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[ QUOTE ] The JJ flop just seems like it could be in the wheelhouse of JTs, QJs, KJs, hands that perhaps he would play for two cold feeling that headsup versus schneids is just fine, but hey, if i get action from around back I'm okay too. [/ QUOTE ] Why would he want to coldcall an UTG raise w/such a dominated hand? I feel it would be more likely for him to do it w/a mid pp. [/ QUOTE ] How does being dominated hurts you? It hurts you when your opponent puts you to tough decisions, either making you call some extra bets when you're probably losing, or perhaps occasionally playing back at you when he doesn't have much himself. Both of those things require aggressive play. If running bad turns someone into a calling station, then the domination is less of a concern.
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#37
02-22-2007, 06:06 AM
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Re: AA check, and call
you're playing this way too passive vs an aggressive player like devon.
I would bet/call teh turn. I think not putting in 3bbs on the big streets is a mistake here. This is a form of tilt from running bad. Don't you think he will raise 66+ here pretty much everytime on the turn.
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#39
02-22-2007, 01:19 PM
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Re: AA check, and call
Obviously I don't play this high but!
I really like this play every now and then especially when running bad. It will certainly help in the future when people remember this and are more likely to check behind not so good hands on the river and give free cards galore.
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#40
02-22-2007, 01:49 PM
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Re: AA check, and call
I like betting the turn and then calling down a raise. However, this could be due to the fact that I continuation bet a lot so a turn bet doesn't imply great strength. If he perceives you as being meek right now and any bet from you is showing strength, then checking the turn is probably correct.
However, he's probably not betting the turn with nothing. You have been calling down with mediocre hands so he's trying to take you to value town. I'm not sure what this means, but I don't like the comments that imply he's bluffing you when you are describing yourself as a calling station. Finally, I think that this hand isn't nearly as important as one where you don't have a good hand but still show aggression. If people are viewing you as passive right now it is a good time to raise the turn with a draw and fold out a better hand, etc.
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