Poker is a game of accidents

[Requin]

I agree. There's only so many situations you can put your opponents in, when play TAG and almost always keeping bets under pot-sized. Obv. there's still lots of room for outplaying oppponents in terms of outleveling them, but if you are better, faster and more familiar with unusual bet-sizes, ranges and lines that's just another factor in which you have an advantage.

[Jason Strasser (strassa2)]

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i didn't find this post all that insightful.

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i dunno i think the only semi-interesting tidbids are that i thing a tight player in the current state of online poker has the ability to be more deceptive and effective than an equally talented player playing loose. i prefaced the entier post with the fact that everything i was going to write was pretty basic...

[SlowHabit]

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I think OP is making a point that the Prahlad Lag style has run its course. He made it profitable playing a style no one understood,comprehended or played for that matter at that time.

If you remember Phil Gordon in his Little Green Book coined the phrase "BOW" or Biggest Online Winner to Prahlad at the time. Saying the his style was simply "un-beatable"

Now that everyone is employing this style, it makes most sense that the players that have great hand reading ability who use a tighter style will more and more exploit their opponents who play looser weaker holdings.

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Has anyone really re-applied prahlads style? Guys like aba, jman, gog seem to play a more controlled and tag style. Are are other great examples besides prahlad in online play?

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Sharky obv.

[Jason Strasser (strassa2)]

durrr is similar

[alphatmw]

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i didn't find this post all that insightful.

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i dunno i think the only semi-interesting tidbids are that i thing a tight player in the current state of online poker has the ability to be more deceptive and effective than an equally talented player playing loose. i prefaced the entier post with the fact that everything i was going to write was pretty basic...

[/ QUOTE ]i only wrote that because the first few responses were "brilliant! great post!" etc and i was wondering which part of your post they were referring to.

i thought the accidentally making the right play thing was pretty obvious. but the "murky modifier" thing you mentioned was something i never really thought about but realized was true. i thought about some of the best players i know and how i would describe their style and realized that i couldn't pin it down to a simplistic description.

[shaniac]

Sklansky said something short and sweet on a WPT episode, probably the one with all the poker authors: he said (something to the affect that) after TOP was published, a lot of good players came up to him and said, "I already do the things you describe in your book, I just didn't know *why* I was doing them."

[riverboatking]

screw the haters, good post jason.

[theBruiser500]

I don't understand the post after a quick read. I think it might be this though... playing TAG is the best way to play poker, since poker players are tougher nowadays it's harder to get away mixing up your style and playing looser. So the best strategy is to play very fundemantally sound TAG and then throw in a very few number of moves that the opponent can't do anything about.

[skillzilla]

i think sklansky mentions this in one of his books

[Subfallen]

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i think vanveen made a post in a thread about hallingol which said what you just said

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Not a H@LL thread, but in this thread VanVeen said:

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what many on this forum seem to overlook or just not comprehend is that once you've learned the 'basics' of the game there is a fair bit of chance involved in just how successful your overall strategy manages to be once it has 'congealed'. much of the analysis on this forum from well known long-time winners is often wrong or incomplete, yet they manage to win because they play reasonably tight, avoid making highly exploitable errors, and are fortunate enough to choose frequencies that 'work' into an overall strategy(hi grimstarr!).

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Also...

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meh, I thought op was somewhat long-winded and masturbatory.

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Meh, you're just jealous that Jason writes better than you. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]