Please post your favorite Bible verses here

[Prodigy54321]

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Science can't really escape ultimate questions, though it claims to.


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science does not posit that they are all valid..it does not try to answer those..such as "untimate good and evil"

it does not try to escape any questions that are valid...it may not have an answer yet..but it doesn't pretend that they aren't valid.

Religion or Theology have not done any better..so it is no fault of science.

[NotReady]

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I have no idea why you think this is true.


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Just read a few posts in this forum maligning the character of the Biblical God. Read any popular atheist like Dawkins. Look at how many literary critics actually think Milton meant Satan in Paradise Lost as a hero. Again, I'm addressing the logic of their position. God is cruel, murderous, evil, despotic, immoral, etc. Anything would be better than that. Since Satan isn't omnipotent, if he wins and is no better than God, then at least we would have a chance against him.

I'm not trying to make the case that atheists are pulling for what is generally associated with Satanism as a religion. My point is that they are against God as the absolute authority of all reality. So logically, if the God of the Bible exists and if Satan is trying to dethrone Him, they would be pulling for Satan. If they're not, then good for them, even though that position may be irrational.

[madnak]

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God is cruel, murderous, evil, despotic, immoral, etc. Anything would be better than that.

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Not someone even more cruel, muderous, evil, despotic, immoral, etc.

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Since Satan isn't omnipotent, if he wins and is no better than God, then at least we would have a chance against him.

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Well, if Satan defeats God, then he wasn't omnipotent either, was he?

Given that we consider Satan to be a fictional character, I think virtually all of us would have to answer that who we would "root for" in such a fight would depend entirely on the nature of the two figures involved. The idea that there is some "absolute" nature that each figures has is all well and good, but from our perspectives this is definitely not the case. It may be that most atheists would support your conception of Satan over your conception of God, but that's completely different.

I do think some popular Christian views of the devil paint him in a more heroic light than the Christians may realize. For example, the idea that Lucifer was the greatest and wisest angels, but then he opposed God. If Lucifer was indeed the greatest and wisest angel, he must certainly have realized the consequences of opposing God. Thus, he willingly chose to suffer the worst possible fate. Why would he do that? He was just really, really angry and not thinking about the consequences?

Bringing other cultural influences into the picture, the idea of Satan as a figure who sacrifices himself in order to give humanity hope isn't particularly unrealistic. But then again, it's just one more interpretation of a fictional character.

[Prodigy54321]

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Again, I'm addressing the logic of their position. God is cruel, murderous, evil, despotic, immoral, etc.

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since when do all atheists believe this is true?

it happens to be that when a person is no longer pressured to think of this god as good, they see that he is not..

but you'll have to place the people who believe god to be cruel in another separate category, because atheism in no was necessitates that position.

[whiskeytown]

John 15:18-19

If the world hates you, remember that it hated me first - If you belonged to the world, the world would love you as it's own. However, because you do not belong to the world, but I chose you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

[Magic_Man]

Back to some bible quotes. Here are some good ones:

Exodus 21:15
"Anyone who attacks his father or his mother must be put to death."

Exodus 21:17
"Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death."

Exodus 21:20-21
"If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property."

Exodus 21:19-20
"Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death. Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed."



I'd post more quotes, but apparently I have a LOT of killing to do, so I'll be back after I finish doing the Lord's work.

[PLOlover]

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John 15:18-19

If the world hates you, remember that it hated me first - If you belonged to the world, the world would love you as it's own. However, because you do not belong to the world, but I chose you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you.

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Yeah, that's the winner.

[ojc02]

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Exodus 21:19-20
"Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death. Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed."


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Doesn't the animal have to be killed too?

[HoldingFolding]

John 4:13

"There shall in that time be rumors of things going astray, erm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia-work base, that has an attachment. At that time, a friend shall lose his friend's hammer, and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight O'clock"

[2OuterJitsu]

Revelation Chapter 3

15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit thee out of my mouth.