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01-21-2007, 01:51 PM
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Re: how hard is the LSAT?
1. It is not hard to do well on the LSAT.
2. It is hard to do very well on the LSAT. The advice to take a class is probably good, because you really need a strategy for the logic puzzles. The other sections are more intuitive, but some strategies are helpful for logic puzzles. It is true there are only a limited amount of types of puzzles and then combinations of those puzzles. (Ordering puzzles, scheduling puzzles, matching puzzles, etc.) Just buy the books of every LSAT thats ever given and just take them. Start off with untimed sections, then untimed full tests, then timed sections, then timed full tests. First work on getting everything right. If you take double the time and go slow, you should be able to get to the point where you can not miss one on the puzzles. Then you need to start working on speed and timing yourself. Although this advice shouldn't apply to you because you shouldn't be going to law school. There are people that have wanted to go to law school and be lawyers their whole lives that don't end up liking it. Doing it solely because you can stay in school and its a high-paying job is dumb. Especially since "delaying the real world" arguments don't apply because law school is harder than the working world. 
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#32
01-21-2007, 02:05 PM
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Re: how hard is the LSAT?
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Especially since "delaying the real world" arguments don't apply because law school is harder than the working world. [/ QUOTE ] First year, maybe, but probably not. I'm pretty sure that people who go from being 3Ls to working at big NY firms don't find the transition relaxing.
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#33
01-21-2007, 02:31 PM
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Re: how hard is the LSAT?
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1. It is not hard to do well on the LSAT. 2. It is hard to do very well on the LSAT. [/ QUOTE ] I'm with this one. I didn't take a practice course, just did a couple practice exams. For better or for worse, I had no real ambition to go to a top-tier school, I knew where I wanted to go and knew the score I needed given my GPA was pretty low. Part of me wonders how I would have done if I had taken a class. Most of me doesn't care.
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#34
01-21-2007, 02:44 PM
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Re: how hard is the LSAT?
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[ QUOTE ] 1. It is not hard to do well on the LSAT. 2. It is hard to do very well on the LSAT. [/ QUOTE ] I'm with this one. I didn't take a practice course, just did a couple practice exams. For better or for worse, I had no real ambition to go to a top-tier school, I knew where I wanted to go and knew the score I needed given my GPA was pretty low. Part of me wonders how I would have done if I had taken a class. Most of me doesn't care. [/ QUOTE ] This seems like a really dumb attitude to have. When I was considering law school, I really just wanted to go to a certain school, didn't have super high aspirations to go to some elite school. I was scoring 165ish and knew that with that and my GPA I wouldn't have a problem getting into that particular school. Then I proceeded to practice LSAT for a couple months before the real test and ended up doing much better (170+). I am still going to the school I planned on initially. The difference, however, was that I will be saving $100K by getting a big scholarship.
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#35
01-21-2007, 02:45 PM
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Re: how hard is the LSAT?
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[ QUOTE ] Especially since "delaying the real world" arguments don't apply because law school is harder than the working world. [/ QUOTE ] First year, maybe, but probably not. I'm pretty sure that people who go from being 3Ls to working at big NY firms don't find the transition relaxing. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I agree with this. I'm a 1L straight outta undergrad, so its tough for me to see some of my friends working the 9-5 with weekends to themselves.
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#36
01-21-2007, 02:47 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Don't go to law school unless you want to be a lawyer. I'm learning this the hard way right now. If you just want to be a student again for a while, apply to grad school. It is much less expensive. [/ QUOTE ] QFT. But you'll ignore this advice, like we all did, and you won't be happy about having ignored it. I wish I'd gone for a Philosophy PhD instead. p.s. And if you do actually want to be a lawyer, reconsider. [/ QUOTE ] This is very good advice.
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#37
01-21-2007, 02:48 PM
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Re: how hard is the LSAT?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 1. It is not hard to do well on the LSAT. 2. It is hard to do very well on the LSAT. [/ QUOTE ] I'm with this one. I didn't take a practice course, just did a couple practice exams. For better or for worse, I had no real ambition to go to a top-tier school, I knew where I wanted to go and knew the score I needed given my GPA was pretty low. Part of me wonders how I would have done if I had taken a class. Most of me doesn't care. [/ QUOTE ] This seems like a really dumb attitude to have. When I was considering law school, I really just wanted to go to a certain school, didn't have super high aspirations to go to some elite school. I was scoring 165ish and knew that with that and my GPA I wouldn't have a problem getting into that particular school. Then I proceeded to practice LSAT for a couple months before the real test and ended up doing much better (170+). I am still going to the school I planned on initially. The difference, however, was that I will be saving $100K by getting a big scholarship. [/ QUOTE ] Wait, so the only difference in our attitude is you got a bigger scholarship? I scored a 165, got half my tuition paid for, and went to the school I wanted to go to, which was where my wife was, and wouldn't be able to move. I'm fine with it.
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#38
01-21-2007, 03:02 PM
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Re: how hard is the LSAT?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 1. It is not hard to do well on the LSAT. 2. It is hard to do very well on the LSAT. [/ QUOTE ] I'm with this one. I didn't take a practice course, just did a couple practice exams. For better or for worse, I had no real ambition to go to a top-tier school, I knew where I wanted to go and knew the score I needed given my GPA was pretty low. Part of me wonders how I would have done if I had taken a class. Most of me doesn't care. [/ QUOTE ] This seems like a really dumb attitude to have. When I was considering law school, I really just wanted to go to a certain school, didn't have super high aspirations to go to some elite school. I was scoring 165ish and knew that with that and my GPA I wouldn't have a problem getting into that particular school. Then I proceeded to practice LSAT for a couple months before the real test and ended up doing much better (170+). I am still going to the school I planned on initially. The difference, however, was that I will be saving $100K by getting a big scholarship. [/ QUOTE ] Wait, so the only difference in our attitude is you got a bigger scholarship? I scored a 165, got half my tuition paid for, and went to the school I wanted to go to, which was where my wife was, and wouldn't be able to move. I'm fine with it. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, then what you say makes sense. I just mean, just because you know you want to go to school X and can get in, doesn't mean you shouldn't try to get as high a score as possible. Even in your case, ace the LSATs and you coulda maybe gotten 75% or 100% scholarship. People talk about how crazy it is that a couple of hands of poker in a big tournament can mean thousands of dollars. I think its crazy that by getting 10 more questions right on a single test, I got myself out of $100K debt.
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#40
01-21-2007, 03:09 PM
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Re: how hard is the LSAT?
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Not sure if this is a good indicator but I got a 650 on my Gmat and a 1290 on the SAT (old version) What could I reasonably expect to get on the lsat? [/ QUOTE ] I was once told to take your Verbal SAT, add a 1 in front, and drop the 0 off the end. That's your base goal. (650 SAT becomes 165 LSAT). Ended up being exactly correct for me.
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