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Could you point me in the direction of that in the bible plz. [/ QUOTE ] 1 Timothy 4:1-5 (King James Version) King James Version (KJV) Public Domain [A Public Domain Bible] [KJV at Zondervan] [Zondervan] 1 Timothy 4 1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. |
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No, it is not. Even if it were, you could change it to "eat nothing but kosher lamb" and the point would still hold. It seems that you are missing the point. [/ QUOTE ] True. But really the point is that the bible explicitly says not to eat fat, and it says that it is a perpetual ordinance which the descendents of the ancient hebrews should always observe no matter where they live, or something like that. I think the point was that fat tastes good and therefore was/is a temptation but accroding to the bible god says don't eat it even though it tastes good cause it's not good for you. |
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"Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together." -- Deuteronomy 22:11 Isn't this a bit silly? Also, why does God not like transvestites? Any reason you know of? What are your thoughts? "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God." -- Deuteronomy 22:5 [/ QUOTE ] i didnt read the responses, but thats old jewish law, not christian law. So to us, nothing is bad about wool and linen blended together. |
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[ QUOTE ] Could you point me in the direction of that in the bible plz. [/ QUOTE ] 1 Timothy 4:1-5 (King James Version) King James Version (KJV) Public Domain [A Public Domain Bible] [KJV at Zondervan] [Zondervan] 1 Timothy 4 1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. [/ QUOTE ] Verse 3 refers to people who mandate particular diets, not to people who choose them for their own reasons. |
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[ QUOTE ] No, it is not. Even if it were, you could change it to "eat nothing but kosher lamb" and the point would still hold. It seems that you are missing the point. [/ QUOTE ] True. But really the point is that the bible explicitly says not to eat fat, and it says that it is a perpetual ordinance which the descendents of the ancient hebrews should always observe no matter where they live, or something like that. I think the point was that fat tastes good and therefore was/is a temptation but accroding to the bible god says don't eat it even though it tastes good cause it's not good for you. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure which passage you are referring to, and I'm not sure exactly what your point is. |
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I'm not sure which passage you are referring to, and I'm not sure exactly what your point is. [/ QUOTE ] My point is that if the old testament is done away with for christians, then why does eating fat still cause heart disease? If that law has been repealed by christ or whatever, why is there still a penalty(heart disease) attached to it? I'm using a more conventient example of the general principle because mixed fabric doesn't lend itself well to argumentation. |
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Lev 3:17 ¶ [It shall be] a perpetual statute for your generations throughout all your dwellings, that ye eat neither fat nor blood.
Lev 7:22 ¶ And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Treasury of Scripture KnowledgeConcordance and Hebrew/GreekList Available Commentaries Images / MapsVersions / TranslationsDictionary Aids Lev 7:23 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, Ye shall eat no manner of fat, of ox, or of sheep, or of goat. Treasury of Scripture KnowledgeConcordance and Hebrew/GreekList Available Commentaries No Images or Hymns AvailableVersions / TranslationsDictionary Aids Lev 7:24 And the fat of the beast that dieth of itself, and the fat of that which is torn with beasts, may be used in any other use: but ye shall in no wise eat of it. Treasury of Scripture KnowledgeConcordance and Hebrew/GreekList Available Commentaries No Images or Hymns AvailableVersions / TranslationsDictionary Aids Lev 7:25 For whosoever eateth the fat of the beast, of which men offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD, even the soul that eateth [it] shall be cut off from his people. |
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[ QUOTE ] I'm not sure which passage you are referring to, and I'm not sure exactly what your point is. [/ QUOTE ] My point is that if the old testament is done away with for christians, then why does eating fat still cause heart disease? If that law has been repealed by christ or whatever, why is there still a penalty(heart disease) attached to it? I'm using a more conventient example of the general principle because mixed fabric doesn't lend itself well to argumentation. [/ QUOTE ] Please rephrase your point in the form of a statement rather than a question. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I'm not sure which passage you are referring to, and I'm not sure exactly what your point is. [/ QUOTE ] My point is that if the old testament is done away with for christians, then why does eating fat still cause heart disease? If that law has been repealed by christ or whatever, why is there still a penalty(heart disease) attached to it? I'm using a more conventient example of the general principle because mixed fabric doesn't lend itself well to argumentation. [/ QUOTE ] Please rephrase your point in the form of a statement rather than a question. [/ QUOTE ] I'll rephrase for the sake of discussion, although I don't necessarily endorse his point: 1) All diseases & pain are a punishment from God. 2) Eating fat was forbidden in the OT. 3) From 1&2, if you eat fat, you are punished with heart disease. 4) Eating fat is no longer forbidden. 5) When you eat fat, you still get heart disease. In other words, you are still being punished for eating fat, even though it's no longer forbidden. The argument falls apart if you disagree that all diseases are punishments from God. So, in question form: A) Do you believe that all diseases are punishments from God? B) If yes, then why are we still punished for eating fat? |
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1) All diseases & pain are a punishment from God. [/ QUOTE ] I think technically if you follow the law of god you are protected from disease and stuff, but if you don't you are subject to time and chance, in cases like this. But yeah, that's the gist of it. |
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