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#31
12-30-2006, 05:00 PM
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Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.
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I sure would like to see something like one of the big MTT packages for 500k and 2 for 750k. Lee, pleeeese? [/ QUOTE ] That's actually more how I imagined it - something like the WCOOP ticket at 500k, the PCA package at 750k and then the other rewards (higher VPP multiplier extra packages etc at 1 million. That way still a huge incentive to get to the elite stage but a lot more enticing stuff in between over and above simple cash as nice as that is Would have thought it made more sense to do it gradually - but then as someone who is substantially more likely to get 750k I would say that. 
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#32
12-30-2006, 05:05 PM
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Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.
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I sure would like to see something like one of the big MTT packages for 500k and 2 for 750k. Lee, pleeeese? [/ QUOTE ] One thing we shouldn't ignore is the possibility/likelihood of very high equity wsop and pca freerolls for the higher levels. I seriously doubt they would give a main event seat for 500k, but they could very easily have a 1 in 5 or 1 in 10 freeroll for the main event and the pca. In fact, since scotty has said they're taking suggestions, why don't we push for some kind of major event freeroll system; i.e. they have "supernova plus" freerolls to all major events with a set number of seats; maybe only a couple for minor ept events, more for the pca and main event. And give tickets that can be used in any of them to 200k+ novas, more tickets for each level. I'm sure they could work thius out so the equity given up wouldn't be huge, but they still make folks in the 200k-500k range feel better about the system.
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#33
12-30-2006, 05:07 PM
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Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.
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I All that Supernovas at the 200K VPP level get now that is different to last year is a $2K bonus that you have to pay almost $1K in FPPs to get... [/ QUOTE ] The SN program was already pretty good. Now you're complaing that you're "only" getting $2000 more? What did you guys expect? Pokerstars is still a company trying to make money. Giving away $2000 to every player playing the amount you do is not something small. Its pretty much like getting a $2000 XMas bonus...if you worked a real job and got that would you really complain?
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#34
12-30-2006, 05:11 PM
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Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.
Yeah, I thought about the possibility that they will add PCA and WSOP freerolls for SN's.
And maybe have exclusive freerolls for the 200k or 300k level players. This is something they wouldn't be doing until 2008 though I wouldn't think. But I cold be wrong, and they could have an 'exclusive' WSOP freeroll on May 1 for those who have already gotten to 100k or 200k by that point or whatever. I'm not sure they will have such freerolls though. Because they don't have any titles for the 200k and 300k levels. You aren't the 'next higher level'. You are still jsut a Supernova who happened to get enough points to be eligible to purchase the milestone bonus. The only 'next highest' level they title is the Elite.
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#35
12-30-2006, 05:12 PM
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Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.
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[ QUOTE ] I All that Supernovas at the 200K VPP level get now that is different to last year is a $2K bonus that you have to pay almost $1K in FPPs to get... [/ QUOTE ] The SN program was already pretty good. Now you're complaing that you're "only" getting $2000 more? What did you guys expect? Pokerstars is still a company trying to make money. Giving away $2000 to every player playing the amount you do is not something small. Its pretty much like getting a $2000 XMas bonus...if you worked a real job and got that would you really complain? [/ QUOTE ] I think ryan's issue is more the distribution of the rewards seeming topheavy than being greedy. But of course, the system can be topheavy becaus in absolute $ terms, stars won't be giving away that much to sn elites because there simply won't be many. In terms of the aggregate cost/value per level I think Stars did make the system pretty fair. I imagine that based on their assumptions about how many wil reach each level, the total amounts they are distributing to high end/middle end/low end novas is balanced.
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#36
12-30-2006, 05:14 PM
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Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.
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Is there any way a NL cash player can make 1M VPPs? [/ QUOTE ] I'm going to try. I certainly don't think its impossible.
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#37
12-30-2006, 05:23 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Is there any way a NL cash player can make 1M VPPs? [/ QUOTE ] I'm going to try. I certainly don't think its impossible. [/ QUOTE ] shouldn't 4k or so hands per day at 2/4 or higher do it with time to spare?
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#38
12-30-2006, 05:32 PM
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Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.
yeah, it does certainly feel like the journey from 100k SN to SN elite is the equivalent of trecking through the sahara desert to get to the big prize. Imo I think they should have thrown a bone to some of the players pushing for the SN elite status midway in their journey... Like perhaps a free WCOOP 1k NL ticket at either the 500k or 750k level or how about an exclusive SNG ticket like they have for the goldstar members but only this one will have a 2k first prize (worth 30k fpps in value - feel free to up the stakes to whatever you want it but you get the idea). Just something to keep the devoted to the elite milestone motivated to achieve the 1 million vpp level.
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#39
12-30-2006, 05:33 PM
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Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.
While I was hoping that they would have a free EPT entry for getting 200K or 300K (or even 500K) at the very minimum I was expecting a discount for the SN+ to purchase one of these entries with fpps. I thought they missed out on some marketing opportunities (if players wore stars gear), by encouraging players to use their fpps for EPT and WSOP events.
From stars perspective I think they would rather have players use fpps to enter these events than by a tv etc. I really was hoping for some sort of discount for the higher volume players this year.+
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#40
12-30-2006, 05:36 PM
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Re: Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.
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While I was hoping that they would have a free EPT entry for getting 200K or 300K (or even 500K) at the very minimum I was expecting a discount for the SN+ to purchase one of these entries with fpps. I thought they missed out on some marketing opportunities (if players wore stars gear), by encouraging players to use their fpps for EPT and WSOP events. From stars perspective I think they would rather have players use fpps to enter these events than by a tv etc. I really was hoping for some sort of discount for the higher volume players this year.+ [/ QUOTE ] v good point/idea. i could see stars going for some combination of a sn+ major event freeroll system and sn+ fpp discounts.
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