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Old 10-02-2006, 03:48 PM
PokrLikeItsProse PokrLikeItsProse is offline
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Default Re: are online poker players enough to tip the election

Would poker players pledge money to the Democratic candidate, no matter who he or she is, if Frist gains the nomination?
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Old 10-02-2006, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: are online poker players enough to tip the election

The vote is done and is almost certain to be signed by Bush. I wouldn't necessarily blame the Republicans on this. Frist has been pushing to make online poker illegal for several years and he's finally succeeded. It was a rider on a bill that had no chance of being defeated and was unanimously passed by both republicans and democrats in both the house and senate. The real injustice is that such a thing can happen. That politicians can take 'certain' bills and litter them with personal initiatives knowing that the main bill will not be defeated because of a 'silly little rider' that was attached.

People have made some good comments such as the guy who said that there are more important things in politics to worry about. That's 100% true, but if this issue is important to you, it's worth worrying about as well.

Now, the question is what can us poker players do about it besides complaining in a poker forum, hehe!?!?

Basically, nothing will happen without a major, organized response from the poker community, which is almost certainly not going to happen without involvement from the poker sites. So, hopefully, they will jump on board and try to get something going.

An well organized myspace campaign could also do wonders, I'm sure. The power to organize and mass can be strong, but it has to be done at a centralized location.

We should also voice concern to our local congress people and let them know that they just passed legislation outlawing something that is very important to us. If this concern was in the form of a petition signed by 100,000 registered voters, it might carry some weight. But, that would take some organizing.

I don't know the solution, so I'm just throwing out hopefully constructive ideas that someone can run with.

Hopefully, the politicians can choose regulation instead of outlaw. But, I won't be holding my breath. It's much easier to take the path they've chosen and it's doubtful there will be many politicians standing up for any online gambler--if even our numbers are quite large.

If we don't become vocal through the internet, no one else will.

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Old 10-02-2006, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: are online poker players enough to tip the election

Frist is a political joke. His "I'm James Dobson's lapdog" act is not going to win him any primaries. He will be a non-factor before the NH primary at the latest.
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Old 10-02-2006, 08:26 PM
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Am I the only one who hopes that this helps frist get nominated? I mean, Frist can't win the actual election if he gets the Republican nod, can he?

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A little more than a year ago, I was high on Frist's chances to win the Presidency. I thought he was well positioned. But, he too often seemed to be politiclly inept (on a Presidential level). Perhaps part of it was trying to campaign out of the Senate.

If Frist wins the Republican nomination, I think he'd still be a favorite to beat most Democrats. He'd be a lock in probably every Southern state. If he can campaign well in the midwest and southwest, I don't know who beats him. No Democrat would have an easy time against him.

Frist used to be a doctor. I thought if health care were a big issue in the 2008 campaign (which I think it still can be), that would give him an edge, especially in the general election.

Despite all that, Frist just doesn't have the Presidential charisma which was so important to Clinton and Bush in 1992 and 2000. He doesn't come aross the right way. That's primarily what's holding him back.
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Old 10-02-2006, 08:30 PM
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Also, there's no doubt Frist will be running for President and the passage of this legislation has helped him in the early stages of the election process (Iowa caucus).

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Why do you feel this way? Historically Iowans have frowned upon heavyhanded federal government, and if Frist is anything, he's heavyhanded.

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He's not doing this for Iowans as a whole, but for the subset of Iowans that vote in the GOP primary.

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Naturally. (Well, caucus.) But that characteristic is much more true of Republicans than Democrats.

Iowa isn't the Bible Belt, for chrissake. It's not exactly Wyoming, either, but I can't see this playing well there.

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Frist probably got the backing of Iowa Representative Jim Leach by getting the onling gambling bill passed. That's a huge step towards being a force in the Iowa Caucus. If Leach is able to provide the infrastructure for Frist's campaign, I think Frist could be a strong candidate.
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Old 10-02-2006, 09:13 PM
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Frist used to be a doctor. I thought if health care were a big issue in the 2008 campaign (which I think it still can be), that would give him an edge, especially in the general election.


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Frist watched Terry Schaivo on video and said she was all right, not in a persistent vegetative state. I would not go see a doctor who saw a video of this woman and declared that.
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Old 10-03-2006, 02:40 AM
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Are online poker players enough to tip the election ?

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DUDE
Hey man, are you gonna find these guys?
Or, you know uh, I mean, do you got any
promising uh, uh, leads? Or--

POLICEMAN
Leads? yeah sure. I'll uh, just check with
the boys down at the Crime Lab.
They uh, got uh, four more detectives working
on the case. They've got us working in shifts.




POLICEMAN
Leads!

The policeman laughs hysterically.

POLICEMAN
Wooo...Leads!
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Old 10-03-2006, 03:00 AM
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Default 18 million non Republican, non Chrsitian voters

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Old 10-03-2006, 03:49 AM
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Default Re: are online poker players enough to tip the election

Sorry to break this to you, but 15 year old 12-tablers still won't be able to vote come the next presidential election.
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Old 10-03-2006, 06:56 AM
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Unless, you are stupid donkeys.

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Stupid elephants? Donkeys are Democrats. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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