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10-01-2006, 11:20 PM
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I am left with one main unanswered question; if anyone knows of any State or Federal law which prohibits using the internet to place a wager please advise me so I can look into the matter further. In the absence of such existing State or Federal law then there is actually no such thing as "unlawful Internet gambling". [/ QUOTE ] Oregon Statute See 167.117, it defines "unlawful" as anything not specifically authorized by law. Internet gambling is not specifically authorized and therefore unlawful. Then 167.122 says if you participate in unlawful gambling as a player you commit the act of unlawful gambling in the second degree, a class A misdemeanor. Seems basic however I would like to hear how you think that Oregon's laws or other State's laws don't apply. 
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10-01-2006, 11:20 PM
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Try reading some of my jillion posts from the past two days and learn something about American law, you British twit. I'm not going to repeat myself for you. [/ QUOTE ] This is a very important subject and it is getting to the point where Lawman is becoming a huge distraction and could cause newcomers with some expertise to stay away. This attack deserves a suspension or outright ban.
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#34
10-01-2006, 11:24 PM
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Berge - it was one of the reasons why I wanted to make the post - to ask if anyone knows of the specific US legislation that prohibits US citizens from placing bets/playing poker using the internet?
This new legislation certainly doesnt prohibit it as I have argued. It refers to some "unlawful internet gambling" which it then kindly doesnt define other than refer to "any existing Federal and State law" What exactly are these Federal or State laws (if any) that purport to make internet gambling illegal? If there are not any in existance then the maker of this bill (Frist) has produced a null law - completely ineffectual.
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10-01-2006, 11:29 PM
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If there are not any in existance then the maker of this bill (Frist) has produced a null law - completely ineffectual. [/ QUOTE ] Wow! You really are a genius. The entire United States Congress and all of it's staff members just didn't know what the hell they were doing, and it took some yahoo from across the pond to figure it out. Quick, call a press conference! You really need to notify the folks at Pacific Poker ASAP before they shut down most of their business for nothing.
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10-01-2006, 11:31 PM
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wow - permafrost - I am amazed!!!!!!!!
Your state prohibts anything as "unlawful" unless a law specifically authorizes it? I cant believe that! Totally opposite to UK law where any act is deemed to be lawful unless specifically prohibited by law. Let me have a quick look at your link and Ill post back.
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10-01-2006, 11:32 PM
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[ QUOTE ] British, Irish, Scottish, whatever. You still don't know what you're talking about. [/ QUOTE ] Why isn't this troll banned yet? Good post breaktwister. [/ QUOTE ]
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#38
10-01-2006, 11:33 PM
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I also read the "Restricted Transactions" definition differently than you do.
My take is that it covers financial transactions initiated by US financial institutions that have an end at sites accepting illegal internet gambling.
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10-01-2006, 11:39 PM
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The Federal Consumer Fair (forgot the word fair) Credit Act applies to all consumer users of credit cards, but not debit cards. I once used it to challenge a motel that overbilled me and got the overcharge reversed. I have sister whose husband lost some money at an Internet Gambling Site (casino I think) and got the charges to his credit card reversed. Once a consumer complains by a form, the credit card company must investigate. Remember a cash transfer to Neteller by credit card is the same as a charge for groceries. So many complaints leading to investigations came from the Internet Gambling Industry that US credit cards companies just stopped accepting transactions with any company related to the industry.
Fortunately, EFT's are not covered by this law.
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10-01-2006, 11:39 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Try reading some of my jillion posts from the past two days and learn something about American law, you British twit. I'm not going to repeat myself for you. [/ QUOTE ] This is a very important subject and it is getting to the point where Lawman is becoming a huge distraction and could cause newcomers with some expertise to stay away. This attack deserves a suspension or outright ban. [/ QUOTE ] Your idea has been thought of
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