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[Leader]

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I saw where Matusow threw away his computer cause he lost so much money. However he is a pro and wins consistantly player real poker. If the online game was the same, he would win there too.

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500/1000 O8 at FT is possibly the toughest O8 game in the world. Maybe he's not good enough. Also if it's so rigged why is he still playing in it like everyday.

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The default assumption in the absence of evidence is, incontrovertibly, that a computer's shuffle would be much, much, much more fairly-randomized than a human's physical shuffle.

So it must be that the cardrooms are rigging it so you win! Your own amazing logic crushes you!

[Synergistic Explosions]

Gentleman Tim Deals A Death Hand In A Crooked Game!

[ShakeZula06]

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As ive always said, they evidence leads to unrandomness, Randomness will be on the burden of the sites. Guilty until proven different. Online poker is a haven for criminal activity.


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What evidence?

[Ali shmali]

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I agree with stockman. You can check my PS stats on SharkScope, I win there. However the cards are not random. If you guys have ever played many live hands, you will see that big hands just dont come around that often. On pokerstars they are constant. I didn't want to believe it, but i have no choice but to accept it.

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But what is the nature? They are trying to keep the fish a live or build the rake? the turn around rate for casual players is very very high. So the quicker they bust, the worse off the site is. There will be less money to pass around which means there is less money to rake. If stars was building monster pots with premium hands, that means fish would be busting much much faster then normal. That means Stars makes less rake in the long run. The last thing stars wants is premium hands against each other. It wants marginal hands against each other over and over and over. If it decided to rig the deal, that's what it would do. Money would trade back and forth for longer periods meaning they would get to take more rake. The idea that they put out monster hands to build 1 single pot that could potentially bust a fish is retarded.

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You guys are in denial because you love to play your precious poker and don't want to accept the truth. The truth is that all of the online poker rooms are rigged for action and rigged for new accounts to win.

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Are you saying everyone at the beginner tables on party are winning? I gave out 5 free bankrolls last month on mgr trackers. They all busted in a day. i was very pissed. where's the rigging when I need it, ugh..

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I saw where Matusow threw away his computer cause he lost so much money. However he is a pro and wins consistantly player real poker. If the online game was the same, he would win there too.

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The online game is very different. I would assume it's much different for the stakes that he plays.

[Wongboy]

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I have a real problem with the posters on this site, Anyone that comes here to try to tell their opinion of online poker is immediately insulted & made fun of if it doesnt fit pro-online, The truth is that online poker is far from random & more people are learning everyday, Eventually the truth will outweigh the agendas of these posters & site operators, Its a sad day when freedom of speech is taken away so someone can get rich & steal from innocent players. Why would anyone go to such extent to insult posters unless you had an agenda. As ive always said, they evidence leads to unrandomness, Randomness will be on the burden of the sites. Guilty until proven different. Online poker is a haven for criminal activity.

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I feel the same way about live poker. Every time I play, the distribution of cards is not truly random. I would post stats backing this up, but the burden of proof is on the poker room managers so I don't have to.

[bkholdem]

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I have a real problem with the posters on this site, Anyone that comes here to try to tell their opinion of online poker is immediately insulted & made fun of if it doesnt fit pro-online, The truth is that online poker is far from random & more people are learning everyday, Eventually the truth will outweigh the agendas of these posters & site operators, Its a sad day when freedom of speech is taken away so someone can get rich & steal from innocent players. Why would anyone go to such extent to insult posters unless you had an agenda. As ive always said, they evidence leads to unrandomness, Randomness will be on the burden of the sites. Guilty until proven different. Online poker is a haven for criminal activity.

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Sounds like you might be in a good postion to get rich. YOu can open up the first legit site and make a killing.

[metsandfinsfan]

awesome thread

[Peter Harris]

lol i *knew* this would be a "pokar is rigged" post.

If you feel that proof of randomness is not present, better start a class action suit against PWC, who have ensured the integrity of Prima's software.

PWC is rigged, yo.

[splashpot]

OP,
I'm going to give you as serious of a response as anyone will. Most posters are made fun of and insulted when they make "poker is rigged" posts because the posts are stupid, not becuase they are voicing their opinion. If they honestly believe poker is rigged and they can provide evidence beyond, "I was sucked out on 5 times in a row." Then perhaps people would listen.

A site like PokerStars will always have the bennefit of the doubt until someone shows REAL EVIDENCE. This is because Stars has a [censored] to lose and not that much to gain.

Honestly, most people who make these posts are complaining that they "feel like it's not random" or "they get sucked out on way more than is normal" when in reality, their sample size is usually no larger than a few thousand hands. Such reasoning is stupid and the cause of all the ridicule.