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#32
10-04-2006, 03:32 PM
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Re: Chess World Championship
Husband v Wife(-130) (12 units)
This is my 5-star, cast-iron plunger of the week. Wife should be around -400 here. Although Husband did sneak a victory last Sunday and got to watch the football, Wife's performance was hampered by the appearance of her mother for a planned shopping trip. Before that, she had won 12 in a row after "the mobile phone incident." While Husband is a bit liquored up, Wife was observed buying hygiene products yesterday morning and is unlikely to give husband a mercy win here. Husband's boss yelled at him today, causing him to have a few after work, but he is not soused enough to thump her one and this match will be a Wife soliloquy as Husband looks at his shoes and wishes he had just married that chick at the bar on St Pat's day. If 12 units exceed your risk tolerance, just buy back an arb on the husband at about +350 just before game time after the sharps push this line up to where it should be. Also parlay the Wife to the Over 30 min if you can find a bookmaker stupid enough to take the bet. 
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#33
10-04-2006, 03:34 PM
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Re: Chess World Championship
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Husband v Wife(-130) (12 units) This is my 5-star, cast-iron plunger of the week. Wife should be around -400 here. Although Husband did sneak a victory last Sunday and got to watch the football, Wife's performance was hampered by the appearance of her mother for a planned shopping trip. Before that, she had won 12 in a row after "the mobile phone incident." While Husband is a bit liquored up, Wife was observed buying hygiene products yesterday morning and is unlikely to give husband a mercy win here. Husband's boss yelled at him today, causing him to have a few after work, but he is not soused enough to thump her one and this match will be a Wife soliloquy as Husband looks at his shoes and wishes he had just married that chick at the bar on St Pat's day. If 12 units exceed your risk tolerance, just buy back an arb on the husband at about +350 just before game time after the sharps push this line up to where it should be. Also parlay the Wife to the Over 30 min if you can find a bookmaker stupid enough to take the bet. [/ QUOTE ] LOL.
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#34
10-04-2006, 04:12 PM
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Re: Chess World Championship
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[ QUOTE ] If you know anything about the top players, isn't betting on this stuff almost impossible to lose? The ball doesn't take funny bounces in this game. I see nothing to randomize the outcome. Shouldn't the favorite win just about every single time? [/ QUOTE ] It's probably closer to that in chess than other championship sports. But there is still the human factor. When Fischer played Spassky in 1972 he made a bad error in game 2 that lost the game. [/ QUOTE ] No. First off, he forfeited game 2. Secondly, his endgame maneuver in Game 1 was questionnable, but certainly not a 'bad error' by any stretch if one is playing to win. It looked odd to GMs who only play to draw those positions. [ QUOTE ] I believe it was in that match that he surprised everyone in a different game by opening with white with his queen's pawn when he had previously ALWAYS been a king's pawn player. [/ QUOTE ] Nope, that was in the Interzonal versus Oscar Panno, which led to the alltime classic Score Sheet of Fischer v Panno: 1. c4 Resigns. Yep, Oscar resigned on the first move, no kidding. This move has a lot to recommend it, suprise value, immediately gets Fischer out of 'book,' eliminates the need for pregame preparation, disguises your later intentions, allows you to drink during matchtime and still make your flight to Argentina on time. Prior to that, he occasionally opened 1. b3 as he did v Mecking in the same Interzonal. Then came the candidates matches against Taimanov 6-0, Larsen 6-0, and then he demolished former WC Petrosian 6-2 iirc. He then played English and QGambit v Spassky for wins. [ QUOTE ] The Karpov-Kasparov match of 1984 is another example. Karpov has a big lead and is on the verge of winning. Kasparov battles his way back and closes it to 5 wins to 3 I believe (with about 55 draws) Just addressing the idea that handicapping this would be as straight-forward as some people might think. [/ QUOTE ] Nah, it's still straightforward. Kramnik was clear value here.
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#35
10-04-2006, 05:49 PM
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Re: Chess World Championship
Right, it was game 1. Thanks for the correction.
Obviously my memory of chess history is a bit sketchy. However, I've read many who believed that Fischer's move was indeed a 'blunder'. Your opinion may indeed be valid (not sure, I'm not very good) but certainly the idea that it was just a 'terrible blunder' isn't an uncommon one either. Here's what wikipedia said about that game: [ QUOTE ] No one knows what went on in Fischer's mind when he blundered with 29... Bxh2?? (see algebraic chess notation) in this rather lifeless position. Every chess beginner learns that the rook pawn is poisoned for the Bishop. Could Fischer really have missed 30. g3 h5 31. Ke2 h4 32. Kf3 h3 33. Kg4 Bg1 34. Kxh3 Bxf2 35. Bd2, trapping the bishop? Karpov has suggested that the reason was overconfidence. The move 29... Bxh2 would become Fischer's most famous move. Fischer probably planned 32. ... h3 33. Kg4 Bg1 34. Kxh3 Bxf2 but overlooked 35. Bd2 and the bishop is trapped (Kasparov 2005:434). Surprisingly, Fischer had good drawing chances with two pawns for the Bishop but he bungled again before adjournment. He resigned on move 56. [/ QUOTE ] I had previously read the comical line about the 'surprise value' of the 'move 1 = resign'. Pretty funny. I think I saw it in the book, 'The even more bizarre complete chess addict' but know that it has bounced around elsewhere. Fischer did play a queen's gamblit against Spassky in game 6 (I said queen's pawn opening which isn't correct since he opened with c4). It was considered extremely surprising that Fischer would choose this opening (I guess it isn't correct that he had NEVER played it before but I could swear that I read that somewhere). my chess books are in storage right now so I can't refer to them. But here's what one website said about game 6 of 1972: [ QUOTE ] Fischer v Spassky Game 6 1972 Perhaps the best game of the 1972 match and certainly one of the most famous games in chess history. And to think this was the first time Fischer had played the white side of a Queen's Gambit as an adult. Spassky chooses to defend with the Tartakower Variation of the Orthodox Defence, probably a good choice as he had previously never been beaten in this opening. But here he plays below his best and allows Fischer to establish a clear advantage from the opening. That alone would not be enough to make this game a classic - Fischer then goes on to play one of the most beautiful middlegames in the history of chess. When Spassky resigned, he joined in the applause given to Fischer, I think I would have probably have thrown a punch. [/ QUOTE ] here's what wikipedia said about games 6 and 8: [ QUOTE ] In the sixth game, Fischer opened with 1. c4, one of the very rare instances he has not opened with 1.e4, nullifying Spassky's extensive opening preparation. Once again, Spassky played passively. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] After this game, Spassky joined the audience in applauding Fischer's win. Psychologically, he had already lost the match. He would later reluctantly refer to this game as the best of the match. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] In game 8, Fischer again played 1. c4, this time an English opening. Spassky gave up an exchange for little compensation, and it is unclear whether it was a sacrifice or a blunder. Fischer won, and he was ahead 5-3. [/ QUOTE ]
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#36
10-04-2006, 07:08 PM
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Re: Chess World Championship
Im curious if any of the posters here have a decent rating?? I sure don't but curious about others...
Naj, Microbob, anyone???? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#38
10-04-2006, 09:07 PM
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Re: Chess World Championship
2000 rating in Canada blows away my ancient USCF rating of 1450.
I really suck. Haven't played USCF since 1999 though. Was playing ICC through about 2002 or 2003 or so and was definitely improving just from volume of play. Probably was a 1600-ish player I suspect when I gave it up for poker. If you are asking about ANY of the posters on 2+2 (instead of just posters in this thread) then TimM, Dynasty and Curtains are among the best chess players on the site. Curtains is Greg Shahade and has written for Chess Life before I believe. His younger sister, Jennifer Shahade, was (is?) one of the top female players in the U.S. and recently wrote a book about life as a female chess player called 'Chess Bitch'. TimM and Dynasty are certainly over 2200 USCF I would have to think. How much higher I'm not sure. TimM has even posted a chess game or two in OOT before IIRC. Possibly some disucssion about such stuff in the newer 'POG' forum.
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#39
10-04-2006, 09:10 PM
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Re: Chess World Championship
curtains is an IM
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#40
10-04-2006, 10:09 PM
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Re: Chess World Championship
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[ QUOTE ] Im curious if any of the posters here have a decent rating [/ QUOTE ] My rating Dunno what you consider decent but I'm ok. [/ QUOTE ] NH! Microbob- I was 1496 then I found poker and I bet Im 800 now [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Thanks for the info. Very interesting. I thought Curtains= Greg S. but I wasn't sure. I remember following his games online at the US masters that I think were played every Tuesday night. I may be wrong, its been a while. Is Naj another 2000+ player as well?
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