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#31
08-13-2006, 01:30 AM
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Re: Eyes Wide Shut.......What Does It All Mean???
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[ QUOTE ] As far as EWS...I think of it as treatise on marriage and how you never fully know the person your with...thoughts on the road not taken...sexual intensity and base desire vs. security, love and companionship...that kind of stuff. [/ QUOTE ]I interpeted EWS as saying the world of relationships we create for ourselves in completely contrived and that we are still driven by core desires that all the love and marriage cannot supplant. For example, all the love, security, family, child, etc. would not have stopped the Nicole Kidman from the one night stand with the soldier even if it cost her everything. I thought he was saying that it is not deviancy but normalcy. [/ QUOTE ] Bingo. As evidenced by what they had to do at the end of the film. 
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#32
08-13-2006, 01:34 AM
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You bring up some valid points.
I would love if the movie hadn't been filmed with a real-life married couple as the 2 lead characters. There is no way this didn't negatively impact Kubrick's goal. But I think you are being too harsh. Attacking a score because it is basic? Huh? Complexity does not equal quality. Take Eddie Van Halen's solos. Very complex, yet every one of them is out of context. Bad.
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#34
08-13-2006, 09:20 AM
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Take Eddie Van Halen's solos. Very complex, yet every one of them is out of context. Bad. [/ QUOTE ]Say whaaaaa??????? I would have to rate this the most incorrect statement ever on 2+2 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#35
08-13-2006, 12:58 PM
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Then a comparison of Eyes Wide Shut's subject matter to Thoreau's comment is not apt. Even when Sydney Pollack was explaining things to Cruise it was in a gorgeous room over a sumptuous pool table and brandies. That these men lead contrived lives, or lives of quiet desperation, is simply not believable.
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#36
08-13-2006, 01:03 PM
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Yes, you're right about the score. Kurbick's use of music thoughout his career was wonderful; 2001, of course, comes immediately to mind. And the songs of Irving Berlin and Paul McCartney, to name two prominent examples, are simple and unsophisticated, yet they certainly speak to us and have withstood the test of time.
It was just that those single piano notes endlessly repeated drove me nuts. Perhaps that was the point.
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#37
08-13-2006, 01:26 PM
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I think Thoreau's comments apply more, if anything, to people like Cruise's character.
His life was about as artificial as could be. And his desperation is as evident as his anxiety.
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#38
08-13-2006, 05:39 PM
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Re: Eyes Wide Shut.......What Does It All Mean???
if its good enough for scorsese its good enough for me.
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#39
08-13-2006, 05:40 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Take Eddie Van Halen's solos. Very complex, yet every one of them is out of context. Bad. [/ QUOTE ]Say whaaaaa??????? I would have to rate this the most incorrect statement ever on 2+2 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Eddie's solos are totally arbitrary. You could mix and match them and nobody would know the difference. This is why Halen will never be amongst the top eschelon of 6-stringers.
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#40
08-13-2006, 06:07 PM
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This is why Halen will never be amongst the top eschelon of 6-stringers. [/ QUOTE ]My god, he defined a whole new style of playing. Nobody was playing pieces like Spanish Fly or Cathedral before him. Even today, I bet there are very few guitar players that can play Spanish Fly with both the same speed and grace. I don't think I have ever heard anyone bash Eddie before.
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