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Old 08-08-2006, 11:36 PM
Longy Longy is offline
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Default Re: lee jones - this 2.5k chips 25/50 blinds 30min levels is f-ing awe

Im not speaking from my current point of view im too busy trying to make a buck playing STT's or cash.

Yet when i was a purely social player an MTT with a nice slow structure was heaven for me. The attraction is being able to play poker for a long time without it turning into a crapshoot, to be able to make moves or wait for hands etc. No matter what the eventual financial reward was, there are plenty of people out there who this caters for and you can only congratulate stars on these tournies.

Sometimes i think posters on here lose sight that most people play poker for entertainment and not the $$$$$$.
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: lee jones - this 2.5k chips 25/50 blinds 30min levels is f-ing awesome

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i REALLY dont think that just because the levels are longer these are going to take more time to finish.

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this is not a well thought out statement
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: lee jones - this 2.5k chips 25/50 blinds 30min levels is f-ing awesome

Why don't they just use the same structure as the WSOP and most big live tournaments?

25/50, 50/100, 75/150, 100/200, 100/200+25, 150/300+25, 200/400+50, 300/600+75, 400/800+100, 500/1000+100(maybe change this to 600/1200+100), 800/1600+200, 1K/2K+300, 1.5K/3K+300, 2K/4K+500, 3K/6K+500, 4K/8K+1K, etc.

Also, I think that it might be cool if they could "race off" the lower denomination chips once they become unnecessary, and when people split a pot, the difference should be to the nearest low denomination chip in play. Also, force players to make incremental bets based on the lowest denomination chip in play (eg, at the 400/800+100 level, you can raise to 2500, but not 2650). This will prevent people from having ugly-looking stacks of 153,469 chips and such. Maybe this is just a pet peeve of mind, but I hate all the weird bets of 7,777 or 69,696, and having rounded chip stacks would make it easier to do exact pot odds calculations, especially when facing all-in bets.
Considering that you are starting with 25/50 blinds, 2500 chips is a good starting stack.

The general philosophy behind my suggestion is that high antes is good for aggressive players who steal more than their fair share of blinds, and punishes those who fold too often and don't defend their blinds enough.

As far as the length of levels, I think 20 minutes is good. The slightly longer levels compensate for the slightly higher blinds relative to the starting stack sizes. 30 minute levels is just too long. I don't want to have to spend 15 hours straight playing in an online tournament, not even the WCOOP. Hands are dealt faster online than in live play, so the tournaments should take less time to complete. I suppose that if they really wanted to have longer play, they could stop play after a certain number of levels and continue it the next day. Personally I don't think this is ideal, but it might appeal to those players who want longer levels or more play.

Finally, I want to stress that the most important aspect of the structure I proposed is the higher antes. The current ante structure in the Sunday Million, with 100/200 blinds and antes of 10, is just ridiculous. It makes stealing the blinds barely any more desirable than without antes. If you don't like antes, play Pot-limit hold'em.
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Old 08-09-2006, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: lee jones - this 2.5k chips 25/50 blinds 30min levels is f-ing awesome

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Why don't they just use the same structure as the WSOP and most big live tournaments?

25/50, 50/100, 75/150, 100/200, 100/200+25, 150/300+25, 200/400+50, 300/600+75, 400/800+100, 500/1000+100(maybe change this to 600/1200+100), 800/1600+200, 1K/2K+300, 1.5K/3K+300, 2K/4K+500, 3K/6K+500, 4K/8K+1K, etc.

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i said this a couple weeks ago and got chewed out, apparently internet players enjoy players that take forever to fiddle with the bet slider so they can bet something stupid like 573?
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Old 08-10-2006, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: lee jones - this 2.5k chips 25/50 blinds 30min levels is f-ing awe

Please keep this structure, its great
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Old 08-10-2006, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: lee jones - this 2.5k chips 25/50 blinds 30min levels is f-ing awe

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Im not speaking from my current point of view im too busy trying to make a buck playing STT's or cash.

Yet when i was a purely social player an MTT with a nice slow structure was heaven for me. The attraction is being able to play poker for a long time without it turning into a crapshoot, to be able to make moves or wait for hands etc. No matter what the eventual financial reward was, there are plenty of people out there who this caters for and you can only congratulate stars on these tournies.

Sometimes i think posters on here lose sight that most people play poker for entertainment and not the $$$$$$.

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