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  #31  
Old 08-07-2006, 01:38 AM
Lloyd Lloyd is offline
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Default Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?

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So as of now, Party has just stolen about $1 Million from its players.

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That's obviously not true. The funds have been re-allocated among players but that's not remotely close to Party "stealing" funds. Obviously I'm not excusing them but don't say they're stealing.
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Old 08-07-2006, 01:41 AM
ace_in_the_hole ace_in_the_hole is offline
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Default Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?

I just recived this e-mail from Party:

Dear Zach,

I am sorry you experienced problems during the Multi-Table Tournament
ID 780579.

Please stay logged in to the client and you will receive an update at
the table informing you of the tournament status.

Your patience in this matter is much appreciated.

Syeda
PartyPoker Customer Care



Hahahahahahaha, they are such a joke. I want my $$$$!!!
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  #33  
Old 08-07-2006, 01:43 AM
uclabruinz uclabruinz is offline
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Default Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?

They are friggin' clueless. I got a similar email pointing out that the barely ITM payout money has already been allocated to my account, so basically I should be very happy.

Yeah, right.
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Old 08-07-2006, 01:45 AM
Superfluous Man Superfluous Man is offline
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Default Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?

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They are friggin' clueless. I got a similar email pointing out that the barely ITM payout money has already been allocated to my account, so basically I should be very happy.

Yeah, right.

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I was too lazy to email them. Hopefully this means I get more than $0.
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Old 08-07-2006, 02:03 AM
La Brujita La Brujita is offline
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Default Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?

im on the phone with a party supervisor about to give him a piece of my mind.

they are telling me i was knocked out in 500 whatever before the tournament started having problems

i was close to going ballistic altough i am super polite on the phone

i luckily didnt lose my cool

but i am steamed
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Old 08-07-2006, 02:07 AM
Zinzan Zinzan is offline
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Default Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?

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im on the phone with a party supervisor about to give him a piece of my mind.

they are telling me i was knocked out in 500 whatever before the tournament started having problems

i was close to going ballistic altough i am super polite on the phone

i luckily didnt lose my cool

but i am steamed

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I have emailed them several times and told them the problems occured with 752 remaining. All of you should also email and point out that this is when the problems occurred and some players were able to steal blinds freely at that point and build huge stacks.

Geez, they can look at the server logs, or the hand histories and see that oakman42 on my table was able to steal 20 or 30 blinds in a row without opposition.

-Z

Edit - From my HH:

#Game No : 4892376228
***** Hand History for Game 4892376228 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:27022446 Level:11 Blinds-Antes(1000/2000-75) - Sunday, August 06, 20:04:46 ET 2006
Table Sunday Million Guaranteed(780579) Table #46 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: oakman42 ( $20637 )
Seat 3: paveplanet ( $22866 )
Seat 5: LARGECAPS ( $22544 )
Seat 7: REWOP12 ( $7596 )
Seat 8: Toddyhack10 ( $22362 )
Seat 1: timkey31 ( $7660 )
Seat 10: glamp1 ( $89286 )
Seat 9: d4heals ( $16595 )
Seat 6: GOTTACALLME ( $21535 )
Seat 4: snowybluff ( $38514 )
Trny:27022446 Level:11
Blinds-Antes(1000/2000-75)
timkey31 posts ante [75].
oakman42 posts ante [75].
paveplanet posts ante [75].
snowybluff posts ante [75].
LARGECAPS posts ante [75].
GOTTACALLME posts ante [75].
REWOP12 posts ante [75].
Toddyhack10 posts ante [75].
d4heals posts ante [75].
glamp1 posts ante [75].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to LARGECAPS [ 6h As ]
GOTTACALLME folds.
timkey31: 3
snowybluff: HIT THE WRONG BUTTON, HAD AK - DANGIT
REWOP12 folds.
Toddyhack10 folds.
d4heals folds.
glamp1 folds.
timkey31: 2
LARGECAPS: come on, tim
timkey31 folds.
LARGECAPS: be a real gambler and go all in on this hand
glamp1: whew, had a q
timkey31: 2 more and I'll play speed poker
oakman42 folds.
paveplanet folds.
snowybluff will be using his time bank for this hand.
snowybluff folds.
LARGECAPS does not show cards.
LARGECAPS wins 3750 chips
lol

Game #4892591433 starts.
#Game No : 4892591433
Table Closed
The hand history for this hand number is not available here.Please use Instant Hand History in the "Game Rules & Options" menu to have this hand history delivered to the email address you have registered with us.

Game #4892593192 starts.

#Game No : 4892593192
***** Hand History for Game 4892593192 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:27022446 Level:12 Blinds-Antes(1500/3000-75) - Sunday, August 06, 20:37:04 ET 2006
Table Sunday Million Guaranteed(780579) Table #46 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: absni ( $75154 )
Seat 2: oakman42 ( $83660 )
Seat 3: paveplanet ( $13766 )
Seat 4: snowybluff ( $27164 )
Seat 5: LARGECAPS ( $13944 )
Seat 6: GOTTACALLME ( $11185 )
Seat 7: REWOP12 ( $6438 )
Seat 8: Toddyhack10 ( $27057 )
Seat 9: d4heals ( $6245 )
Seat 10: glamp1 ( $75186 )
Trny:27022446 Level:12
Blinds-Antes(1500/3000-75)
absni posts ante [75].
oakman42 posts ante [75].
paveplanet posts ante [75].
snowybluff posts ante [75].
LARGECAPS posts ante [75].
GOTTACALLME posts ante [75].
REWOP12 posts ante [75].
Toddyhack10 posts ante [75].
d4heals posts ante [75].
glamp1 posts ante [75].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to LARGECAPS [ 4s Qs ]
oakman42 folds.
paveplanet folds.
snowybluff folds.
LARGECAPS folds.
GOTTACALLME is all-In [11110]
REWOP12 folds.
Toddyhack10 folds.
d4heals folds.
glamp1 folds.
absni calls [8110].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, 6h, 3s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ks ]
absni shows [ Jc, Js ] a pair of jacks.
GOTTACALLME shows [ Tc, Kh ] a pair of kings.
GOTTACALLME wins 24470 chips from the main pot with a pair of kings.
Game #4892629760 starts.
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Old 08-07-2006, 02:20 AM
La Brujita La Brujita is offline
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Default Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?

i talked to the party vip and had quite a nice chat.

i pointed him to this thread and laid out the entire set of concerns. equity wise it doesn't effect me all that much but its a big deal as a regular party tourney player.

bottom line: the management is looking into what to do. they realize it was a mistake not to cancel at 752, at least it was said "it could have been handled better"

the ultimate problem is the following:

if they roll it back to 752 (when they should have stopped the tourney) the people who gained chips, in whatever form after 752 but before it was canceled, will feel like they are screwed out of equity.

the question is where will the makeup come from, if it comes at all.
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Old 08-07-2006, 02:27 AM
CharlieDontSurf CharlieDontSurf is offline
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Default Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?

party should run it from when the problem began-752...but give every player double their buy-in prior---the players who didnt get booted shouldnt have anything to gripe about given it was a software malfunction that allowed them to increase their stacks.
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Old 08-07-2006, 02:32 AM
Zinzan Zinzan is offline
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Default Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?

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the ultimate problem is the following:

if they roll it back to 752 (when they should have stopped the tourney) the people who gained chips, in whatever form after 752 but before it was canceled, will feel like they are screwed out of equity.

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A number of players were able to build up quite nicely by unfairly stealing blinds. And already big stacks were able to survive, only losing 10-15K in blinds.

The players that were hurt the most were small to below average stacks, like me. We were wiped out or pretty much crippled without an opportunity to play.

Actually, small stacks should probably get MORE than chip count. For example, when a deal is proposed at a final table, the small stacks are the ones that typically get more than chip count, because they have more to gain by playing on. They should definitely get more than standard payout for helplessly busting in the first or second pay-tier.

-Z
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Old 08-07-2006, 02:33 AM
ace_in_the_hole ace_in_the_hole is offline
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Default Re: Lets make a list: Who got screwed by Party in the 1M tourney ?

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i talked to the party vip and had quite a nice chat.

i pointed him to this thread and laid out the entire set of concerns. equity wise it doesn't effect me all that much but its a big deal as a regular party tourney player.

bottom line: the management is looking into what to do. they realize it was a mistake not to cancel at 752, at least it was said "it could have been handled better"

the ultimate problem is the following:

if they roll it back to 752 (when they should have stopped the tourney) the people who gained chips, in whatever form after 752 but before it was canceled, will feel like they are screwed out of equity.

the question is where will the makeup come from, if it comes at all.

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Was there any mention on when we could expect to see money?
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