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#31
07-19-2006, 04:51 PM
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Re: two hands from today\'s $1500 NLH at WSOP
OK quick results, I folded hand 2, but I was debating it still. I was pretty sure I never get a fold, which is really why I did it. If I had around 2000 I would make the move.
Hand 1 I actually did check. MP checked and button took only a few seconds before betting 600. NOW I push, right? 
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#32
07-19-2006, 04:53 PM
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Re: two hands from today\'s $1500 NLH at WSOP
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OK quick results, I folded hand 2, but I was debating it still. I was pretty sure I never get a fold, which is really why I did it. If I had around 2000 I would make the move. Hand 1 I actually did check. MP checked and button took only a few seconds before betting 600. NOW I push, right? [/ QUOTE ] No other choice, IMO. This is precisely what you wanted to happen. You must push here. edit: And this [ QUOTE ] I folded hand 2, but I was debating it still. I was pretty sure I never get a fold, which is really why I did it. [/ QUOTE ] Seems to contradict your earlier statement: [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Stupid donkey question: in hand 2, are you hoping that everyone folds or that you get called as a 2-1 dog with a heap of dead money in the pot? [/ QUOTE ] I'd take either one, frankly. [/ QUOTE ]
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#34
07-19-2006, 06:14 PM
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Re: two hands from today\'s $1500 NLH at WSOP
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OK quick results, I folded hand 2, but I was debating it still. I was pretty sure I never get a fold, which is really why I did it. If I had around 2000 I would make the move. Hand 1 I actually did check. MP checked and button took only a few seconds before betting 600. NOW I push, right? [/ QUOTE ] Yeh, you have to checkraise allin. As peopel have been saying players don't call raises with a king that much. A flat call with AK or KQs-KTs is possible. Real donks call with kings. I think you have to take that chance. At worst, you probably have 2 outs. I would just open push the flop. It looks like an ace or pp that missed cbetting/semibluffing. So xT, JJ, and 99 are likely to call.
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#36
07-19-2006, 06:25 PM
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Re: two hands from today\'s $1500 NLH at WSOP
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while I would take either result in hand 2 I still think folding equity is a significant part of what would make the play +EV and I have none. [/ QUOTE ] You have 87o, the pot has been raised and you have no FE, so why are you considering pushing? People are going nuts with this squeeze play business. Also, you don't generally want to squeeze with typical restealing hands like 87o. If you get called, you generally get called bu JJ+, AQ+. You are best off trying this with Axs, since you are about 2-1 against any ace or pp except AA.
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#37
07-19-2006, 06:28 PM
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Re: two hands from today\'s $1500 NLH at WSOP
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while I would take either result in hand 2 I still think folding equity is a significant part of what would make the play +EV and I have none. [/ QUOTE ] I think you have a tiny bit, but 87o doesn't seem good enough to me. 87s and ARREEEN BABY. -SmileyEH
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#38
07-19-2006, 06:31 PM
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Re: two hands from today\'s $1500 NLH at WSOP
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Also, if you're open-pushing here, you only get called against a super-draw at best. [/ QUOTE ] This is CRAZEEEEEE. Anyway, the whole hand analysis breaks down if we don't agree on that point. I think tons of worse hands will call. Remember this is CRAZY NATH playing too. Maybe if it was Nit McFolderson raising UTG the calling range is different but really, this is 15BB going into the pot - noway is 2nd or even 3rd pair folding. -SmileyEH
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#39
07-19-2006, 06:34 PM
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Re: two hands from today\'s $1500 NLH at WSOP
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edit: Also, you're so sure you're ahead, but you say hand-protection is essential. What exactly are you afraid of on the turn? [/ QUOTE ] I wouldn't like to see an A T 9 or diamond. If the board is K54r, then checking is definitely better. -SmileyEH
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#40
07-19-2006, 09:16 PM
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Re: two hands from today\'s $1500 NLH at WSOP
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[ QUOTE ] Also, if you're open-pushing here, you only get called against a super-draw at best. [/ QUOTE ] This is CRAZEEEEEE. Anyway, the whole hand analysis breaks down if we don't agree on that point. I think tons of worse hands will call. Remember this is CRAZY NATH playing too. Maybe if it was Nit McFolderson raising UTG the calling range is different but really, this is 15BB going into the pot - noway is 2nd or even 3rd pair folding. -SmileyEH [/ QUOTE ] If nath open-pushed here and I'm sitting there w/ JT, I fold without a second thought. I guess I'm just weak-tight then.
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