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Jennicide 323 11.07%
Jen Harman 100 3.43%
Erin Ness 461 15.80%
Evelyn Ng 225 7.71%
Clonie Gowen 271 9.29%
Isabelle Mercier 221 7.57%
Cecilia Nordenstam (Mortensen?) 179 6.13%
Jennifer Tilly 226 7.75%
Shirley Rosario 33 1.13%
Mimi Rogers 40 1.37%
Liz Lieu 231 7.92%
Karina Jett 45 1.54%
Aidlily Elviro 98 3.36%
Peachy 263 9.01%
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Old 06-22-2006, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: Who\'s the better NBA player?

Felton isn't better than Williams. That's a real, real stretch considering Williams's stats are better in almost every category, including FG%, 3pt%, and FT%. He has .55 points on Felton in efficiency.
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Old 06-22-2006, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: Who\'s the better NBA player?

30 posts, 3 of them not hijacked.

I'm fairly sure Lebron will have the better career. I think Lebron is a slightly better player/.
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Old 06-22-2006, 02:30 AM
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Default Re: Who\'s the better NBA player?

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Kobe shoots better.


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Kobe 2005-2006: 45% FG
Kobe career: 45.1% FG

Wade 2005-2006: 49.5% FG
Wade career: 48.2% FG

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Kobe 2005-2006: 48.2% 2pts 34.7% 3pts
Wade 2005-2006: 51.3% 2pts 17.1% 3pts

Kobe shoots a ton more 3s and is the focus of every defense he plays against, of course his overall shooting percentage will be lower. Wade is very efficient from about 18 ft in right now. As he expands his range he may become a better shooter than Kobe, but right now he's not.

Kobe vs Wade - Most will say Kobe has the edge offensively, but it's close. Defensivley it's no contest... Kobe is consistanly one the top 5 defenders in the league. Right now, Kobe is the better player by a decent margin.

Wade vs Lebron - Lebron had a better regular season and a similar postseason. Not much to say there.

Defense - for guys as quick and athletic as Kobe Lebron and DWade are, good D is all about effort. Playing great defense takes just as much energy as playing great offense. There's a reason basketball people say Kobe is one of the best conditioned athletes in the world... because he does it on both ends, 100%, 40+ minutes a game. Jordan was the same way.

This is an area Lebron and DWade could really improve on over the next few years.
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Old 06-22-2006, 02:47 AM
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I'm fairly sure Lebron will have the better career.

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championship rings have a huge effect on how careers are measured. At the end of the day Shaq's numbers are very similar to Karl Malone's, but because of the 4 rings (and counting) there's no comparison. DWade has one now and a great shot at another next year, while Lebron is gonna need some help before he even gets a shot. I'm not sure Dwayne will ever be a better player than Lebron, but he definately could have a better career.
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Old 06-22-2006, 02:52 AM
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Default Re: Who\'s the better NBA player?

Seriously, it's not like there's really any huge differences in the talents between LeBron, Kobe, and Wade.

Wade with Shaq at 24 is better than Kobe was with Shaq at 24. Both of them are better defenders than LeBron, and all three of them have the ability to just completely take over a game.
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Old 06-22-2006, 03:01 AM
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Better PG's than Jason Williams
Iverson
Paul
Ridnour
Marbury
Francis
Arenas
Nash
Kidd
Billups
Terry
Hinrich
Parker
Cassell
Bibby
Barbosa
Andre Miller
Ridnour
Baron
Brevin
Felton

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There are a couple of Knicks on this list that never would have accepted a role the way Williams did this year. Playing within the structure that your coach and team have is a pretty important chatacteristic for a PG.
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Old 06-22-2006, 04:11 AM
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Seriously, it's not like there's really any huge differences in the talents between LeBron, Kobe, and Wade.

Wade with Shaq at 24 is better than Kobe was with Shaq at 24. Both of them are better defenders than LeBron, and all three of them have the ability to just completely take over a game.

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Good answer. All these comparisons are kind of lame. Wade, Lebron, and Kobe are different players and play very differently. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. If one of them is "better" than the others it isn't by a very wide margin (although I think Lebron is the 3rd best right now because of his D).
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Old 06-22-2006, 06:08 AM
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Default Re: Who\'s the better NBA player?

Wade is better, period...

Wade had Odom two years ago and as a rookie made him look like an all star... u put Kobe w/ him, and Odom becomes a non-factor b/c Kobe needs the ball in his hands @ all times... Kobe is SUCH a selfish player, that he wanted Shaq out of LA... the most dominant big man in the league, and Kobe wanted him gone b/c once again, he wanted the ball in his own hands...

Kobe made the playoffs, wow, congrats on that one... he has (arguably) the greatest coach in the history of the game, a very solid pf in Odom, an ABOVE average center in Mihm (for others that disagree name me 16 centers who are better), and a solid run the show pg, but that doesn't even matter, b/c u could put Kidd or Nash on that team and they'd be useless b/c Kobe wouldn't let them touch the ball either...

would Kobe win a one on one game, probably, I give credit where it's due... he's a better defender, and a GREAT scorer... but winning championships, consists of being a great PLAYER, and Kobe simply lacks a fundamental understanding of the game... people forget that Phil Jackson said he's simply uncoachable, and vowed to never coach him again (the only reason he's back is b/c he's [censored] the owners daughter)...

also, a healthy Kobe and a healthy Shaq HAVE lost a playoff series, where as a healthy Wade and a healthy Shaq (an older version I might add) have never lost a playoff series... in fact, in last years playoffs, and not many people know this, not only was Wade barely able to play in game 7, but Shaq's thigh was so severely bruised that he twice had to get it drained during the series just to play, and Miami STILL took Det to 7... and comparing those 2 teams, Fisher was better then Damon Jones, Devean George and Haslem are a push, and Eddie Jones, while a better player, is a choke artist, so that is a push as well... and Phil Jackson definitely gets the edge over Stan...

w/ all that being said, I'll take Wade any day of the week
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Old 06-22-2006, 06:16 AM
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u put Kobe w/ him, and Odom becomes a non-factor

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I dont really want to get into the kobe/lebron/wade debate for the 967th time, but to respond to this quote Odom was an absolute beast in this years playoffs.
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Old 06-22-2006, 06:35 AM
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Default Re: Who\'s the better NBA player?

All of this Kobe bashing is insane. I am tire of people just spewing the same crap that they here from ESPN. Do you watch the Lakers? Do you see what happens when Kobe passes the ball to wide open teammates? Smush Parerk 0-9? Kwame missing from 1 foot away from the basket. If he was a better team mate would he do shooting drills with them during practice? Odom played very well in the playoffs and got the ball much more because of it. Kobe plays on much different teams that LeBron/Wade.
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