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Old 05-11-2006, 06:49 AM
chezlaw chezlaw is offline
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1/2= 3000$
2/4= 6000$

5/10= 15000$

Thats just me. Im I crazy or what? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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You're crazy. Seriously, if it is an ability problem, ie you aren't confident you are where you need to be to be comfortable skillwise at the next level, fine. I can also see the argument that you want to be comfortable with the swings at the next level. Dropping 50BB very often and having that be 10% of your bankroll can be stressful the first few times at a higher limit.

But really, quit being a nit and move up.

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Theoretically its nitty but practically I agree with those sort of figures. When you have a big downswing (300+ BBs)its not the number of BBs lost that gets to you as much as the dent in your bankroll that really hurts. It helps to have such a large bankroll that the downswings make little impression.

All the theory in the world doesn't help you prepare for the horrific realisation that you're -300BB and the really bad slump could just be about to begin.

The 'dropping down' theory is all very well but its tough to execute before your game goes to pot.

edit: maybe $15000 is a bit ott for 5/10 but its a lot more sensible than $3000. I'd go with about $10000

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Old 05-11-2006, 09:23 AM
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I play mostly 1/2 holdem mostly on party poker and right now don have any set bankroll .i am avg 1k/week playin everday


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No you aren't.

How many hands have you played?


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fwiw, it'd be super easy to make $1,000 a week playing 1/2 with bonuses and play at 25 hours/week


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What? how? how many tables are we playing at the same time? $1000 a week at 1/2. that would be incredible. Please go on....
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Old 05-11-2006, 10:15 AM
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I used to be completely over-rolled for 5/10 and 10/20 and I found myself wasting all the extra money laying around by playing high-buyin donkaments and higher limit games. So - if you are going to keep a ridiculous roll for your game, are you going to have the discipline to use it just for that game?

I play 5/10 short exclusively now and cashed down to 300bb. Every Sunday I cash back down to 300bb and pull the profit out of Neteller. I've had a few dips, but between bonuses and rb it makes it easier to keep my roll threshold and cashout rules working.

Also - I have a full time non-poker job, so the specter of going BUTSO isn't completely horrific.
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Old 05-11-2006, 10:45 AM
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I can't imagine keeping only 300BB's for 5/10 short. Especially if you multi-table and like to sit down with more than 25 BB's at each table.
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Old 05-11-2006, 11:38 AM
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It all depends.

Option A. $2k - The gambler.
You want to take a shot. If you run hot your roll will be over 3k quickly. If you drop 500, drop down.

Option B. $3k - The risk taker.
You have the minimum roll. Give it a try. If you drop to 2k move back down and try again when you have 3k again.

Option c. $5k - Conservative.
You have a large roll for your current limit. You can take a shot at 5/10 and still have plenty of $$$ if you do poorly and move back down.

Option d. - $10k
For those who are:
Too stubborn to move back down.
Unable or unwilling to ever add more $$$ to their bankroll.
Use poker as a source of income.
When your roll is very large, the swings have a lesser mental effect. You still have a very large roll if you move back down. You can take a bigger shot at moving up which gives you a better chance of adjusting to a new level.

These are just examples and everyone has their own unique tolerance for risk. You just have to know what size roll is best for you.

I normally maintain at least 1000+ BBs. A big roll allows me to play my best and not worry about going bust.
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Old 05-11-2006, 01:24 PM
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Option d. - $10k
For those who are:
Too stubborn to move back down.
Use poker as a source of income.
When your roll is very large, the swings have a lesser mental effect. You still have a very large roll if you move back down. You can take a bigger shot at moving up which gives you a better chance of adjusting to a new level.


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Very well put sir
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Old 05-11-2006, 01:37 PM
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i play 5/10 with an $1100 br, i know it's low as hell as i am a 2/4 reg. player, but at my site most people never buy in with over 200$ most are around 10 bb so i just demolish them.
i play 1 table only
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Old 05-11-2006, 05:38 PM
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I haven't won at 5/10 short since early March, and every day I thank god that I had a ~$10k bankroll when the slide started.
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:07 PM
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This may seem like a simple question - but do you simply double your BR requirements for multitabling (i.e. BR of $6K for two tables, $9K for three, etc)?

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Same roll for any amount of tables at the same limit.

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This is not true. As the number of tables increases your standard deviation increases by the square root of the number of tables being played.

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I know nothing of the math behind this, but it's pretty much always been said that the requirement is the same. I mean, playing 200 hands @ 10 tables is exactly the same as playing 2000 hands at 1 table for purposes of variance. The only issue is if you play a lot of tables you want to make sure that you can do a full buy in (which for me is like 40/50BB's since I don't like having to monitor how I'm doing at each table and rebuy) even after a downswing, then you might want some extra. But it has nothing to do with your risk of ruin (except for the degree to which your winrate might decrease from playing more tables).

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Sorry, but no. Swings may happen faster timewise but the standard deviation in terms of hands (which is what counts) is the same regardless of how many tables you play.

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Isn't that what I said?
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Old 05-11-2006, 08:50 PM
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I haven't won at 5/10 short since early March, and every day I thank god that I had a ~$10k bankroll when the slide started.

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