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Old 05-06-2006, 12:32 PM
Triumph36 Triumph36 is offline
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Default Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*

That sounds like a terrible plan. You shouldn't even be playing 33 500 BBs deep, much less re-raising with it. But if you are re-raising with it, this is a pretty clear call. If you fold, it's because you're playing on scared money and you should get out of the game.
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*

Didn't you want to triple your net worth in one night?

This really is the definition of "scared money". You should've just left the table if you were unwilling to put your money in with the 2nd nuts.
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*

Nah, this ain't a joke bro. My first thought when he pushed was instacall.... The more I thought the more I talked my self out of it.
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*

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You shouldn't even be playing 33 500 BBs deep, much less re-raising with it.

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Wow...this is just awful advice.
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*

You've contradicted yourself about 5 times. You stated in the OP that you were waiting to stack him. You have about as good a situation to do that as you could possibly hope for, and now you're scared to do it.

If you were going to play this way, you should have stated you were trying to avoid villain's big stack. But then you wouldn't have raised preflop (another contradiction). As others have said, if you're not able to make this outrageously easy call, you should have not been in the game.
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*

creed,

FWIW I called.
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*

legend,

Do you always just follow everyone else's advice or do you ever think for yourself?

It's not always so cut and dry in poker buddy. There isn't a set plan where u always do the same thing.
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*

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I guess my question is, How deep do I need to be to let this go? At the time, I thought laying down was the best move. However, looking back I can't see how folding can ever be +Ev long term in that spot.

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creed,

FWIW I called.

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sounds like you folded to me
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:58 PM
TheRegulat0r TheRegulat0r is offline
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Default Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*

That pot is [censored] huge when it gets back around to him pre-flop, if he had AA or KK wouldn't he usually hammer it rather than see a 5-way flop with a premium hand?

It looks like 222 to me. You said you didn't think it was a flush draw, but can you completely rule hands like A4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 45[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], and 56[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] out of his range? How often does he bump it to $30 after a limper?
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: 2/5 NL *Super Deep*

I don't see any way you can give him KK here, becuz of PF sequence of action. He opens for $30, then you make it $110 with a deep stack, this is a wet dream scenario for AA or KK, since they get to come back over the top and either win a small pot PF or have 4-1 chance to stack you. But then there are 3 callers in between making pot $450, even the biggest moron in the world knows to push here with AA or KK to protect his hand. There is no way you don't have the best hand, the problem is you should have picked up earlier if the $ on the table is so important to you. You must call here or fold and pick up immediately since your $ is too scared.
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