"I have a big hand and pot odds. I fold"

[adanthar]

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What I think you mean by your statement is that you didn't adequately consider your chances of winning this hand, because you figured that, eh, 20% is good enough to call in any situation. I know you're not thinking that you made a bad call because you happened to lose this hand (even though that's how your post reads).

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No, I'm thinking that I could be getting around 1000:1 to close the action, and with my read, the call would be wrong.

[MLG]

how wonderfully tommy angelo of you. for the record i call here, but i understand your point.

[adanthar]

Meh. Sorry guys, I was trying to make a point but obviously picked a too far out there hand for it.

edit: did I mention (I know I did to you, heh) that way back at the start of my poker career, tommy angelo was my role model and I wound up check/calling quads 3 times once? That was fun.

[NHFunkii]

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Wow. If anyone but andathar posts Hand 1, then get ripped apart. I, for one, think this a very bad fold.

Edit: And why is checking the flop so "standard?" I think betting this flop is perfectly fine, if not preferrable. But then again, this assumes I will be going broke anyway if one of the Villains has a J. Clearly this does not apply to you.

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heh, he's still getting ripped apart for it. However yeah, Adanthar's point is still an excellent one, regardless whether the examples are accurate - a ton of people (including myself) make some pretty damn bad river calls. While they don't have to be correct very often to be profitable, a lot of them aren't profitable enough, and at the very least you should analyze what he could have before you call.

[A_PLUS]

Adanthar, I respect your hand reading ability as much as anyone. But I have played the 30r on dise a decent amount. You mentioned that you dont have any experience with the players, I think you are over-estimating how often your read is correct here.

[imgoingrock]

what the f---, call hand 1 in a quick second

make a PSB on the flop and turn for #2

[SossMan]

I like you hand in hand 1 if one of your aces was a king, except I would probably have called the river.

[adanthar]

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I like you hand in hand 1 if one of your aces was a king, except I would probably have called the river.

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Soss,

I realize there is some hyperbole involved, but if you call AK on the river, [img-vomiting guy.]

[NHFunkii]

on that we can agree.

[sirio11]

Even hand #1 sucks, I think Adanthar's general point about overvaluing pot odds when calling in the river it's a very good one.

I'd like to continue posting in this thread, but I just can't stand that guy vomiting.