Israel's Attack on Lebanon and Hezbollah

[irvman21]

If Israel can verify that Nasrallah is indeed holed up in the Iranian Embassy as is widely expected, does this make it a legit target? I haven't had a problem with anything Israel has done thus far, but I don't know if it's worth the risk of a much wider conflict.

[BCPVP]

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I haven't had a problem with anything Israel has done thus far

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You don't have a problem with this?!?! What's wrong with you people??? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[irvman21]

That link doesn't work for me. I assume it's a picture of some innocent person who was killed as a result of Israel's response to Hezbollah's invasion. I have no problem with the tactics they have used in response to what should be considered an act of war. I'm sad that innocent people are dying over and I hate Hezbollah that much more because of it.

[NapHead]

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Is it? You do realize how anti-Semitic the UN has become, dont you?

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No.


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Well, at least you admit your ignorance of that fact. Do some research and then come back.

Here are three links to get you started.

At the UN it's ok to be anti-semitic

UN bias against Israel

UN, Israel, and anti-semitism

[BCPVP]

The link was to photos in that anti-semetic rag, the Washington Post, showing some of the aftermath. Link

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I have no problem with the tactics they have used in response to what should be considered an act of war.

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I'm having trouble imagining what tactics short of nuclear weapons you'd be objecting to. Rocket fire from helocopters on pickups full of civilians fleeing after being told to leave by the Israelis? Shelling and bombing of a U.N. observation post? How can you tell people that they should leave and then bomb them while they try to leave? That's what Israel's doing.

[BCPVP]

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Is it? You do realize how anti-Semitic the UN has become, dont you?

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No.


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Well, at least you admit your ignorance of that fact. Do some research and then come back.

Here are three links to get you started.

At the UN it's ok to be anti-semitic

UN bias against Israel

UN, Israel, and anti-semitism

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Again, anti-Israel != anti-semitism. And perhaps some links that at least had some semblance of neutrality would be in order if your going to make such an argument.

[Copernicus]

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Is it? You do realize how anti-Semitic the UN has become, dont you?

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No. Also, anti-Israel != anti-semetic. Are the Irish anti-semetic as well?

<font color="red"> i know the difference and the UN has a huge anti-semitic contingent and a larger anti-Zionist contingent.</font>
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Sure, perhaps Israel should just leave all of HZBs capabilities intact because no missile is 100% accurate. Talk about childish. And you refused to recognize that there are no special forces there or can reasonably be expected to get there before missiles are launced from those sites.

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Your twisting of my words is even more childish. How long would a helocopter ride out there take? The helocopter wouldn't even need to carry people. Even an attack helocopter could visually identify the target to be sure they were hitting what they wanted (a concept any hunter safety graduate knows: know what you're aiming at and what's nearby if you miss).

<font color="red"> you dont seem to understand that the inaccuracy comes AFTER the missile is fired. it is not misdentification of the target, it is the inaccuracy of the missile </font>
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wtf does that have to do with anything?

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It seems to be Israel's mentality. That they have no responsibility to keep from hitting non-combatants. A SWAT officer using Israel's methods would be justified in firing his weapon wildly about a room full of hostages as long as he has a chance of hitting the hostage-taker. And you'd be the first to congratulate him, it would seem. <font color="red"> your interpretation of Israeli mentality is suspect, yoru interpretation of mine is dead wrong </font>

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the UN isnt Israels mother. Closer to an abusive UNcle

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Ah, so Israel did the world a favor then. They should, in fact, kill more of these abusive uncles. <font color="red"> if you say so, thats not what i said or think</font>

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You have no basis for the opinion, but that rarely stops anyone from forming them.

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Nobody has any basis for any opinion they hold that opposes yours, do they?

[/ QUOTE ] <font color="red"> another false claim, and dangerously close to a personal attack. </font>

[DVaut1]

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and dangerously close to a personal attack. </font>

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And so it begins...

[NapHead]

On CBC radio today, retired peacekeeper Canadian Major General Lewis Mackenzie was interviewed and spoke of the Canadian who was killed in the airstrike yesterday. This is what he had to say:

"We received emails from him a few days ago, and he was describing the fact that he was taking fire within, in one case, three meters of his position for tactical necessity, not being targeted. Now that’s veiled speech in the military. What he was telling us was Hezbollah fighters were all over his position and the IDF were targeting them. And that’s a favorite trick by people who don’t have representation in the UN. They use the UN as shields knowing that they can’t be punished for it."


Radio interview

[BCPVP]

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you dont seem to understand that the inaccuracy comes AFTER the missile is fired. it is not misdentification of the target, it is the inaccuracy of the missile

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And being closer can reduce this inaccuracy. Plus maybe you decide not to fire that particular weapon because of the proximity to non-combatants. A sentiment that Israel does not seem to possess.

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your interpretation of Israeli mentality is suspect, yoru interpretation of mine is dead wrong

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Wrong? You mean if someone is shooting and hits non-combatants because of recklessness they did something wrong? Square that with your position on Israels attacks that have wrought hundreds of civilians dead, if you can.

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if you say so, thats not what i said or think

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But you said the U.N. was abusive. That seemed to imply that Israel was either justified in the bombing of the building, or at worst not at all negligent for its destruction and killing of non-combatants. I don't see many other reasons for making the statement you did.

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another false claim, and dangerously close to a personal attack.

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Struck a nerve, huh? Your attitude in many of the threads you participate in has come across as "I'm always right, you're always wrong". Something to think about.