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#341
05-03-2006, 07:41 PM
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Re: Any Questions??
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[ QUOTE ] best post of the thread. I also agree with sublime's general sentiments. If some random GUY (or semi well-known guy) came on here and said that they consistently beat the mid-high stakes games and then went on about this one time in which they observed there were more deuces hitting the flop of late so they decided that there was an increased chance of hitting their set somehow then there is about ZERO chance the reaction would be as positive for them as it has been to Ms. Gluck. She's been very nice and tolerant of some of the criticism and vulgarity she's had to put up with in this thread. but saying that she had a feeling a deuce was going to hit and actually saying that playing such hunches is a good way to play sounds borderline-Hellmuthian to me. [/ QUOTE ] I think this is the 5th time already Bob....but I will say it again, I'm not trying to teach anybody. I shared how I played a hand because I was asked. I could care less what you think of it mathematically. I won't call a raise with 33 in my small blind, but we are not talking about that are we? I have been successful at playing my way and no one elses, and I will continue. [/ QUOTE ] I don't believe I said you were trying to teach anybody. you say you are just relating how and why you played a certain hand. Some of the posters are telling you that they think that playing such 'rushes of deuces' is kind of dumb. And I'm also adding that more people around here would be showing their agreement with this if you were a dude. 
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#342
05-03-2006, 07:44 PM
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Re: Any Questions??
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] so el diablo when is playing 22 for 3 bets cold correct in a live situation? [/ QUOTE ] When you are playing at the Commerce, where nobody ever folds, and you are guaranteed six-way action to the river. [/ QUOTE ] What about when you're playing at Bellagio? "This last trip to Bellagio was incredible, I flopped 3 sets of 2's in the last couple days, so I decided to call 3 bets on the button with 22, I hit a set AGAIN. I think I made 5000 on pocket 2's for the trip." [/ QUOTE ] I hate when people talk about a situation they know nothing about....I was playing in a 9 handed game, 5 players were from Commerce.... there was a tournament at Bellagio, no games at Commerce. Next time you try being a "smart ass" you may want to put more effort into the "smart" part
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#343
05-03-2006, 07:45 PM
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Re: Any Questions??
More people might agree with Sublime and company if she was a dude. Or she could just change her name to gigabet and call it metagame and everybody would be on board.
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#344
05-03-2006, 07:53 PM
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Re: Any Questions??
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More people might agree with Sublime and company if she was a dude. Or she could just change her name to gigabet and call it metagame and everybody would be on board. [/ QUOTE ] Please stop talking forum posting strategy, my head hurtz...but then again, I'm a pretty weak-tight poster.
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#345
05-03-2006, 07:59 PM
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Re: Any Questions??
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[ QUOTE ] I seriously want to hear if you believe that a 2 is more likely to flop if you've been hitting them earlier in the session. [/ QUOTE ] Depends on the day, who's at the my table... so on and so forth. That situation I was talking about, at the time, I did feel I was going to hit a deuce. God forbid anyone get lucky in poker! It's all skill and numbers! *rolling my eyes* [/ QUOTE ] Thinking like this is what makes the game of poker exist.
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#346
05-03-2006, 08:03 PM
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Re: Any Questions??
Getting back to the gossip part of NVG and away from beating the dead two deuces horse...
Jean, a little bird tells me you and Edog are something of an item these days. Confirm/deny? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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#347
05-03-2006, 08:04 PM
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Re: Any Questions??
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] so el diablo when is playing 22 for 3 bets cold correct in a live situation? [/ QUOTE ] When you are playing at the Commerce, where nobody ever folds, and you are guaranteed six-way action to the river. [/ QUOTE ] What about when you're playing at Bellagio? "This last trip to Bellagio was incredible, I flopped 3 sets of 2's in the last couple days, so I decided to call 3 bets on the button with 22, I hit a set AGAIN. I think I made 5000 on pocket 2's for the trip." [/ QUOTE ] I hate when people talk about a situation they know nothing about....I was playing in a 9 handed game, 5 players were from Commerce.... there was a tournament at Bellagio, no games at Commerce. Next time you try being a "smart ass" you may want to put more effort into the "smart" part [/ QUOTE ] You really cut to my core with that jab. *edit* Here's a serious question. The other day I was playing 8-16 at the casino (I don't have the bankroll to play 100-200, I don't follow my special feelings often enough I guess) and I have Kings UTG+1. The UTG player raises. Aces had been hitting the flop pretty often. Should I just fold now since the majority of my opponent's holdings include an Ace? I had a pretty bad feeling about this hand as I had been running bad for about 6 weeks. Or do special feelings only apply when making a play that has a blatantly huge negative expected value?
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#350
05-03-2006, 08:24 PM
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Re: Any Questions??
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[ QUOTE ] I fully understand and hope I don't sound like I'm criticizing your play. And I'm not saying you didn't make money w/ 222. I'm just trying to show you where others are coming from (in a more constructive way than "hahahhahahahaha nanny nanny boo boo" that is often employed here. I don't fold 53s. Steve often refers to the hands that I play by the sum of the two cards. "Josh, what do you have here? 9? 11?" meaning I have a hand like 54s or 74s. I really don't have room to criticize people for their play... Josh [/ QUOTE ] You and I both know that if you play live poker in California and only play AA, KK, AK etc. you will not make money. And I'm all about making money [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I totally agree with you, I am all about making money too. Thats why I play a lot more hands that AA, AK, KK, JJ, etc. However I also know that when the odds to make a set are roughly 7:1 that I want to have at least 10 (but I'd rather have 14 of course) bets in the pot before I start cold calling 2 bets to me with deuces. As others have pointed out its not the fact that you cold called with deuces one time, thats not a big deal in the big scheme of things. Its that you haven't conveyed an understanding why its not a winning play regardless of your gut hunch... thats why this portion of the thread is unfortunatly continuing. May I ask a question? It seems that you believe in luck... am I right? I think its a safe wager that most of us here don't believe in luck, thats probably a fundamental difference in the thought process. If you can't tell yet I know Josh, we think alike. I really liked his post, hopefully mine comes across the same way. PS: you are a great sport for putting up with all of this, thats very cool. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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