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#341
07-13-2007, 07:26 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 4, Fri., July 13 **
Senovio Ramirez Forfeits a Pot to Kenny Tran
Kenny Tran raises to 30,000, and Senovio Ramirez calls from one of the blinds. The flop comes (Ad)(Ah)(6h), Ramirez checks, Tran bets 40,000, and Ramirez folds. The turn card is the (Kd), and both players check. The river card is the(Qd) , Ramirez bets 67,000, and Tran calls. This is where it gets interesting. As soon as Tran calls, Ramirez says, "You win." Tran tosses his cards and waits for the pot, but notices that Ramirez is still holding his cards. Tran quickly grabs his cards back, waiting. Ramirez does nothing, and the dealer tells him that if he truly forfeits the pot, he needs to muck his cards before she can push it to Tran. Tran says, "You'd better muck your cards." Ramirez postures for a bit, but eventually mucks his cards. The pot is pushed to Tran, who then, and only then, mucks his cards. This works better if you have many chips and look like you can beat the guy to pulp later. 
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#342
07-13-2007, 07:27 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 4, Fri., July 13 **
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Angle shooting? from pokernews.com [ QUOTE ] Senovio Ramirez Forfeits a Pot to Kenny Tran Kenny Tran raises to 30,000, and Senovio Ramirez calls from one of the blinds. The flop comes {A-Diamonds}{A-Hearts}{6-Hearts}, Ramirez checks, Tran bets 40,000, and Ramirez folds. The turn card is the {K-Diamonds}, and both players check. The river card is the {Q-Diamonds}, Ramirez bets 67,000, and Tran calls. This is where it gets interesting. As soon as Tran calls, Ramirez says, "You win." Tran tosses his cards and waits for the pot, but notices that Ramirez is still holding his cards. Tran quickly grabs his cards back, waiting. Ramirez does nothing, and the dealer tells him that if he truly forfeits the pot, he needs to muck his cards before she can push it to Tran. Tran says, "You'd better muck your cards." Ramirez postures for a bit, but eventually mucks his cards. The pot is pushed to Tran, who then, and only then, mucks his cards. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Unless his opp had an aneurysm then yes, it is an angle shoot.
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#343
07-13-2007, 07:29 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 4, Fri., July 13 **
Beyond greasy.
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#344
07-13-2007, 07:29 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 4, Fri., July 13 **
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[ QUOTE ] Angle shooting? from pokernews.com [ QUOTE ] Senovio Ramirez Forfeits a Pot to Kenny Tran Kenny Tran raises to 30,000, and Senovio Ramirez calls from one of the blinds. The flop comes {A-Diamonds}{A-Hearts}{6-Hearts}, Ramirez checks, Tran bets 40,000, and Ramirez folds. The turn card is the {K-Diamonds}, and both players check. The river card is the {Q-Diamonds}, Ramirez bets 67,000, and Tran calls. This is where it gets interesting. As soon as Tran calls, Ramirez says, "You win." Tran tosses his cards and waits for the pot, but notices that Ramirez is still holding his cards. Tran quickly grabs his cards back, waiting. Ramirez does nothing, and the dealer tells him that if he truly forfeits the pot, he needs to muck his cards before she can push it to Tran. Tran says, "You'd better muck your cards." Ramirez postures for a bit, but eventually mucks his cards. The pot is pushed to Tran, who then, and only then, mucks his cards. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Unless his opp had an aneurysm then yes, it is an angle shoot. [/ QUOTE ] An incredibly cunning one with the post flop fold too!
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#345
07-13-2007, 07:30 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 4, Fri., July 13 **
Didn't somebody already try this one this year?
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#346
07-13-2007, 07:31 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 4, Fri., July 13 **
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[ QUOTE ] Andrew Barnes raised to 25,000 from middle position and Ron Kluber moved all-in for 506,000 from the small blind. Barnes called and showed KK, Kluber had A-K and looked to be in serious danger of elimination [/ QUOTE ] Is this standard play in what is supposed to be the tournament that should crown the world champion?! [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I posted the same question. I can't see shoving 506K into a 49K pot with AK here??
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#347
07-13-2007, 07:31 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 4, Fri., July 13 **
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Senovio Ramirez Forfeits a Pot to Kenny Tran Kenny Tran raises to 30,000, and Senovio Ramirez calls from one of the blinds. The flop comes (Ad)(Ah)(6h), Ramirez checks, Tran bets 40,000, and Ramirez folds. The turn card is the (Kd), and both players check. The river card is the(Qd) , Ramirez bets 67,000, and Tran calls. This is where it gets interesting. As soon as Tran calls, Ramirez says, "You win." Tran tosses his cards and waits for the pot, but notices that Ramirez is still holding his cards. Tran quickly grabs his cards back, waiting. Ramirez does nothing, and the dealer tells him that if he truly forfeits the pot, he needs to muck his cards before she can push it to Tran. Tran says, "You'd better muck your cards." Ramirez postures for a bit, but eventually mucks his cards. The pot is pushed to Tran, who then, and only then, mucks his cards. This works better if you have many chips and look like you can beat the guy to pulp later. [/ QUOTE ] With that board I'm surprised at least one of them didn't table their hand.
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#348
07-13-2007, 07:31 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 4, Fri., July 13 **
[ QUOTE ]
Angle shooting? from pokernews.com [ QUOTE ] Senovio Ramirez Forfeits a Pot to Kenny Tran Kenny Tran raises to 30,000, and Senovio Ramirez calls from one of the blinds. The flop comes {A-Diamonds}{A-Hearts}{6-Hearts}, Ramirez checks, Tran bets 40,000, and Ramirez folds. The turn card is the {K-Diamonds}, and both players check. The river card is the {Q-Diamonds}, Ramirez bets 67,000, and Tran calls. This is where it gets interesting. As soon as Tran calls, Ramirez says, "You win." Tran tosses his cards and waits for the pot, but notices that Ramirez is still holding his cards. Tran quickly grabs his cards back, waiting. Ramirez does nothing, and the dealer tells him that if he truly forfeits the pot, he needs to muck his cards before she can push it to Tran. Tran says, "You'd better muck your cards." Ramirez postures for a bit, but eventually mucks his cards. The pot is pushed to Tran, who then, and only then, mucks his cards. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] clear angle shooting, you can't fold the flop and then bet the river!
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#349
07-13-2007, 07:32 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 4, Fri., July 13 **
Ken Lawrence Still Wondering Why Avi Called
Ken Lawrence pushed all-in on a flop of {Kd}{10d}{4d} and Avi Cohen called. Lawrence had {Qd}{Qs} and Cohen had {Kh}{Qc}. The turn and river were blanks and Cohen won the pot. Lawrence asked, "how could you call me with that?" Cohen responded, "I thought you had A-K." So, again, Lawrence asked, "why did you call?" Good question!
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#350
07-13-2007, 07:32 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 4, Fri., July 13 **
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Andrew Barnes raised to 25,000 from middle position and Ron Kluber moved all-in for 506,000 from the small blind. Barnes called and showed KK, Kluber had A-K and looked to be in serious danger of elimination [/ QUOTE ] Is this standard play in what is supposed to be the tournament that should crown the world champion?! [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I posted the same question. I can't see shoving 506K into a 49K pot with AK here?? [/ QUOTE ] Yes but he'll always be able to look back on that moment and have a fun story to tell. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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