WSEX = RAKE FREE!

[MicroBob]

I think this an extremely interesting theory.

[Benal]

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I think this an extremely interesting theory.

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This has got to be your shortest post ever! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[almostbusto]

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amen. just loaded another 2500$ after losing 4/5 my first deposit. bring on the bots shills rocks and 2+2ers.
"Remember if its rake free, it can't be negative EV"***


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Obviously you have never played the site if you think its filled with Rocks.

This is the kind of disinformation I'm talking about. Posters make claims to the site without ever playing it. They just don't want for some reason to think a site with no rake is viable. So the smear campaign begins on day 1.

[/ QUOTE ] did you not see the post i was amening. shut the [censored] up. i know its not a bunch of rocks. i was saying i have played there and i love it so far and i am not looking to leave. and if the 'smear' is true then bring it on because the promotion more than pays for itself..

[Victor]

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This is my read on what MIGHT be happening (hopefully):

This is WSEX's having a serious run at the American Gov't. With the US Gov't failing to abide by the WTO ruling (to pass permissive laws in time, the deadline only JUST having expired) the US is exposed to further legal action.

I think WSEX is deliberately initiating a campaign to attract American players, with the intent of following through with even more serious actions (eg. maybe more overt national advertising, further WTO suits when US breach WTO rules again, etc). 100% RB is just their way of starting the process.

The long-term goal would be to crack the US open, so WSEX can legally operate from within. The first internet betting shop to do so, if it is large enough to penetrate and expand faster than the followers, will make a killing.

WSEX have all the necessary resources to do it, and given their ealier WTO actions, they already seem to be heading down this road.

That would be nothing but great news, as far as I'm concerned.

If I am right this will take a long time (it won't happen in a few months) to come to fruition, and WSEX will want to be BIG when the doors open, so it is likely (hopeful) that their inducements will continue (if not increase)

If I am right there should be supporting evidence appearing from other directions, eg. are they pushing the boundaries in the sports area in the US, are they filing an more suits in the WTO, etc?

Good luck to them!

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if usa ever allows internet sites in usa soil the big casinoes will immediately dominate the market.

if i remember correctly, on that 60 minutes special, the guy from the mirage even said they have everything in place to start an online site given the chance.

i cant imagine wsex would compete with mirage/bellagio.

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WTF A deposit bonus on a rake free site? They pay you to play?

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SHhhhh go play your hula match!

[MicroBob]

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I think this an extremely interesting theory.

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This has got to be your shortest post ever! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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not really.

[Timer]

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I think spamming to other players in chat-boxes is just a slimy/stupid thing to do.
And to do so in efforts to promote a site that happens to be rake-free doesn't change my opinion on this.

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I think that an online site charging the same amount of rake that a B&M charges is a slimy/stupid thing to do.

[BigHef]

I can confirm that the bonus has ended - however a chat with CS asking where I can find my bonus details ended up with them crediting the bonus to me [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Still a deposit bonus? Please post link. The former link is not working. Thanks.

ToT

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According to the e-mail I received from WSEX there is no deposit bonus for poker--just no rake. There is a deposit bonus for the sports book.

[Sandra Bullett]

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if usa ever allows internet sites in usa soil the big casinoes will immediately dominate the market.

if i remember correctly, on that 60 minutes special, the guy from the mirage even said they have everything in place to start an online site given the chance.

i cant imagine wsex would compete with mirage/bellagio.

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There are reasons to think otherwise:

1) I've seen 60 Minutes (and the like) interviews with casino bosses before. And have found them to contain nothing more than self-serving, untruthful, BS. That you saw an exec say that is, in my mind, at least irrelevant, or probably good reason to believe the opposite.

2) The internet s/w landscape (capabilities, etc) is a rapidly evolving place. I don't think Mirage (& Co.) have a software development team working full-time on keeping their 'sitting on a shelf' software state of the art. If they have any software at all, it is probably quite dated.

3) While Mirage (and the like) have mega-dollars, they have zero experience in running an on-line site. Experience counts in any enterprise, especially billion dollar ones. Not all problems can be solved by throwing $$$ at them. I've generally found that companies that make obscene profits are usually quite incompetent (their excessive profits usually come from some sort of monopoly, and they've never needed to employ really clever people). Have you interacted much with senior casino management? I have. Nearly all of them worked their way up the ladder, and almost none of them are qualified at anything. They have extraordinarily high opinions of themselves, but no one else does.

4) WSEX will, if the 'doors' open, hit the ground running (with thousands or tens of thousands of existing customers). They'll also get kudos (and much PR) for being the organisation that opened the doors.


Unlike you, I can imagine WSEX competing with Mirage, Bellagio, etc. Certainly the B&M casinos will scramble - they'll have to - but I don't think they'll come close to eliminating WSEX.

Will WSEX at least prosper enough to be still able to offer us a welcome mat? I think so. The competition in the US market won't make these companies smaller. That competition will be all about who can capture the phenomenol market growth that will occur if sites are allowed to be based within the US. If WSEX loses that race, they might only double in size, rather than being ten-times larger.

Most importantly, let's hope WSEX don't share your pessimism. I want them to try to, and to succeed at, cracking the US.