What would you do about Virginia Tech?

[theweatherman]

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so I am opposed to letting people own them on principle

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No offense, but who the hell are you to "let" me or anyone else do or own anything?


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If I am understanding correctly, there should not be a government to control what people may do or own?

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Bingo

[Woolygimp]

Time to outlaw household chemicals...


...and to outlaw airplanes.

[tehox]

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Time to outlaw household chemicals...


...and to outlaw airplanes.



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Wow what a novel analogy. You are really smart.

[Woolygimp]

I appreciate the compliment. Formally it's not "you are really smart" but instead "you are very smart" since the definition of really is:

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# truly: in accordance with truth or fact or reality; "she was now truly American"; "a genuinely open society"; "they don't really listen to us"
# actually: in actual fact; "to be nominally but not actually independent"; "no one actually saw the shark"; "large meteorites actually come from the asteroid belt"
# in truth: in fact (used as intensifiers or sentence modifiers); "in truth, moral decay hastened the decline of the Roman Empire"; "really, you shouldn't have done it"; "a truly awful book"

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I mean who would be dumb enough not to be able to see the correlation between suicidal maniacs killing several people, whether it be with a plane, a bomb, or a gun.

Explain how there's a difference?

[BCPVP]

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Wow what a novel analogy. You are really smart.

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Planes are "gun-free zones" and the 9/11 hijackers were equipped with box cutters, IIRC...

[ShakeZula06]

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Who said anything about locking anyone up? There is a slight difference between personal freedom and the right to carry a lethal weapon.

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The latter enforces the former.

[MoreWineII]

I ran across this stat today, without even really looking. It's funny to me that I can find this stat without even looking to upport my position, but the rabid gun folks in all their wisdom have yet to show me anything from a reputable source to support theirs. Anyway, enjoy and ponder what could be.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=3048249


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Gun crime is rare in Britain, and handguns are completely illegal. The ban is so strictly enforced that Britain's Olympic pistol shooting team is barred from practicing in its own country.

Britain's 46 homicides involving firearms was the lowest total since the late 1980s. New York City, with 8 million people compared to 53 million in England and Wales, recorded at least 579 homicides last year.

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[govman6767]

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*I* have training to do so in a safe manner, and I happen to be a good deal more efficient with their use than your typical cop on the beat. So I guess this means we're good.

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Is efficient synonymous with trigger-happy?

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No, but I'm sure Metric and the other millions of gun owners appreciate you sliming them. Gun owners could just as easily call anyone that doesn't own a gun a pansy.

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Im just really curious to how he defines himself as being more efficient.

I mean, cops shoot to kill. They are 100% trained for deadly force. Plus they are trained in an environment that is realistic, and not one like most gun owners learn to use their gun in.

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Phil, Americans want guns whether for hunting, defense, sport, etc.
We do not wish to ban guns nor do we wish to be "more like britian"

And for those highly trained people in your country that are allowed to carry weapons.... well I would not feel all that safe with your soldiers and police being the one's protecting me. "They give in a bit easy"

[NCAces]

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I ran across this stat today, without even really looking. It's funny to me that I can find this stat without even looking to upport my position, but the rabid gun folks in all their wisdom have yet to show me anything from a reputable source to support theirs. Anyway, enjoy and ponder what could be.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=3048249


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Gun crime is rare in Britain, and handguns are completely illegal. The ban is so strictly enforced that Britain's Olympic pistol shooting team is barred from practicing in its own country.

Britain's 46 homicides involving firearms was the lowest total since the late 1980s. New York City, with 8 million people compared to 53 million in England and Wales, recorded at least 579 homicides last year.

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What are you babbling about. I gave cites that show that Britain, gun free and all, has the highest crime rate of all industrialized countries.

So they have less hand gun murders and more crime over all. Could that be beacause criminals in the UK have nothing to fear from their victims. Amazing what that does to your rosey scenario.

NCAces

[yukoncpa]

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What are you babbling about. I gave cites that show that Britain, gun free and all, has the highest crime rate of all industrialized countries.

So they have less hand gun murders and more crime over all. Could that be beacause criminals in the UK have nothing to fear from their victims. Amazing what that does to your rosey scenario.

NCAces


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Idaho has one of the lowest per capita violent crime rates of any state, with only a few states such as Utah and Vermont doing better. Every household that I’m aware of has a firearm. If you don’t happen to own one, no problem ( and no need to register ). Just buy one from the classified section of the local newspaper. Or just own your own business in a rural area, plenty of people offered me guns in lieu of money when they were short.

Outlawing guns through legislation won’t work, at least not around here. The last time a piece of legislation was considered to ban certain assault rifles, people here, just swarmed to gun shows and gun shops to buy whatever type of firearm was being considered for banishment from personal use.


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