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Old 06-21-2007, 06:19 AM
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Default Re: Official JUNE uNL **\'`MICROBREW THREAD`\'** LC/NC this way...

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Kazana, I guess our methods of review differ - I personally would rather look at game/session/villain specific situations from my PT and look into more game theoretic EV solutions than run a precise and inflexible formula over my results. I get far more value from reviewing the decisions made at all points in a single hand than some program which says "here is your expected EV to seven decimal places".

Just me I guess

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Our review methods don't differ all that much. It's the starting point that's different.

See, I look through my last weeks EV in ai hands (which will likely include most of the biggest pots - and therefore most relevant for upping my winrate).
So I notice that I got my money in with say only 48% EV over the last few days. Not good. It's time to see where I made blunders. Did I get unlucky and villain just happened to hold the top % of his range in those situations I got it in as a dog? Did he coax me skillfully into giving up my stack? Did I make false assumptions or a bad read? Did I miss that the board just completed an obvious draw? Did I get myself into a situation where I had to call even though I knew I'm behind? If so, did I at least estimate my odds correctly or did I make an incorrect call?
By starting with hands where I got it in as a dog, I can easily identify many (but not all) of those situations where I made mistakes.

Furthermore, I like to compare different batches, to see if I'm starting to cut EV slices more thinly (e.g. EV of 50.1% this week vs 53% last week), or am I potentially turning too weak? I like the EV calculator as starting point, because it takes me straight to a batch of hands where I've either made mistakes, got outplayed, or did it right, but just got unlucky.

The next step is to review the hands where I got it in as huge favorite. Did I get lucky (villain held the worst possible hands out of his range, or I coolered him)? Or did I coax him into calling/bluffing off a stack? How did I do it? Can I repeat this?

How I'm running is a very little part of that program, I only use it to calm my nerves when things go badly instead of falling into doubt about my game and maybe start making changes for the worse.

Another question out of curiosity: You said you review hands based on a villain? Why? I feel that I hardly tangle with the same villain often enough at these levels to make a villain specific review worthwhile. Would be interesting to hear about that, probably something I could add to my reviewing process.
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Old 06-21-2007, 07:13 AM
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Default Re: Official JUNE uNL **\'`MICROBREW THREAD`\'** LC/NC this way...

I used that EV calc when I was down 9 BIs and it said I was running GOOD.


Immediate uninstall and Ill never be using it again.
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Old 06-21-2007, 07:32 AM
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lol, when I first used it, I was running hot and it said I was down a gazillion $$$.

Then I realized that the HH files of Eurobeat don't include opponents hole cards when they don;t show at showdown - even when ai. So basically only the hands where I lost were taken into account. But, for a brief second I may have thought that I must be the next best thing that ever happened to pokah. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 06-21-2007, 07:46 AM
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Default Re: Official JUNE uNL **\'`MICROBREW THREAD`\'** LC/NC this way...

Hardly. FGator already happened.
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Old 06-21-2007, 08:18 AM
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Default Re: Official JUNE uNL **\'`MICROBREW THREAD`\'** LC/NC this way...

SON OF A BITCH! SON OF A GODDAMN BITCH! SURE YOU HIT YOUR RUNNER RUNNER FLUSH VS. MY FLUSH FOR THE 43667TH [censored] TIME. I CAN AFFORD TO LOSE ANOTHER BUYIN! HYACHACHACHACAHCAHA! W$SD ONLY 42.4% OVER MY LAST 8K HANDS !

Im off to kill something right now. Anything will do. Holy [censored] I need a break. Should I use the 7day cool off period from party?

Im gonna punch something now.

Im serious.
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Old 06-21-2007, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: Official JUNE uNL **\'`MICROBREW THREAD`\'** LC/NC this way...

Easy there killer ... no need to go [censored] all over the place


Play a few sets of 11s' and you be happy playing ring again [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-21-2007, 08:24 AM
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Default Re: Official JUNE uNL **\'`MICROBREW THREAD`\'** LC/NC this way...

Afternoon everyone.

HYAACAAHAAHACCHAAHCCHCCCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
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Old 06-21-2007, 08:26 AM
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oh [censored] no... Already lost about 40 buyin in those damn evil satanish sit n go's. Its like whatever I play... Im bound to lose.

simple bubble in a $22 or w/e. I push with KTs, OF COURSE THAT MOFO CALLS WITH J7s AND WINS.

I know thats standard. But im soooo frustrated right now. I lose or breakeven every single session. If I win 2 buyins today, I know I will lose 3 tomorrow.


Bah... I really hate it when people whine about their downswings, and Ive become one of those people. Bah
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Old 06-21-2007, 08:28 AM
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Default Re: Official JUNE uNL **\'`MICROBREW THREAD`\'** LC/NC this way...

Then take a break or play Stud/PLO/O8 if you don't want to take a break

Holla, it is just poker !
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Old 06-21-2007, 08:29 AM
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SnGs are evil.
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