Several Hotshots Supposedly Broke Or In Debt

[El Diablo]

tech,

I just have a lot of respect for guys like you who have what it takes to perform and close at the highest levels. I don't know you, but Jason is a friend and really good guy. I know you guys know each other from school and I just hope that you are still grounded enough to help him out with some tips and stuff to help get his tourney game to near the same level as yours.

[cero_z]

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what gives you the right for judging david on being a "lazy genius"? are you that much better? as poker players we are all leeches on others and provide no productivity for our time. im sure your wall street job will go on to save starving children in africa while reducing CO2 emissions.

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tstone - i thought you were doing well until this.

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lap, you're a tad sensitive about traders/trading/capitalists getting criticized, huh?

[samsonh]

Am I the only one that admires Jason alot for his honesty. David comes on here acting like he knows everything about life, well, he plays [censored] poker for a living. He basically lives in a damn casino. What the [censored] can you know about real life when you play a goddamn game for a living. You can philosophize all you want, but what does it really mean when your entire life is in [censored] Vegas playing a game?

[seemorenuts]

I really enjoyed your post, and any reinforcement of the same theme is helpful now and then.

I also have taken it at face value without the baggage of those who claim you are arrogant, etc.; on the contrary, I find you to be very caring and generous--moreover since you know by posting this the typical noise occurs (and you care only inasmuch as the original intent is obscured).

So my question is, who if anyone should we reserve our adulation for, if anyone?

Besides you, there are quite a few unknown and low-profile players in live play. How about online play? One would have to use the metric of money carefully, since many good players are still sticking to reasonable risks and limits.

I already know much of the answer, that would be contained in 2+2 literature by you and Mason.

I do wonder how many lurkers out there are very comfortable with your posts, they might also disagree strongly with the misconception that you are mostly concerned about making money--it would be nice to hear from them more often.

I believe you are indeed aware that your greatest contributions would be through education and I hope you will succeed in the algebra book soon. What other non-poker topics have you considered writing about that you <u>haven't</u> mentioned in your own sub-forum yet?

Best wishes,

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[seemorenuts]

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Am I the only one that admires Jason a lot (corrected) for his honesty. David comes on here acting like he knows everything about life, well, he plays [censored] poker for a living. He basically lives in a damn casino. What the [censored] can you know about real life when you play a goddamn game for a living. You can philosophize all you want, but what does it really mean when your entire life is in [censored] Vegas playing a game?

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I fail to see how "David comes on here acting like he knows everything about life," please point to the phrase that suggests this.

He is commenting on poker, and he's an expert at poker, where's the problem?

Moreover, you just have to look at the real world to understand that one's environment, not to mention one's field of known expertise, have no bearing on where one can contribute to humanity.

Just think of the many famous writers, statesmen and philosophers who lived in gulags, poverty or prisons.

Do you really think we could learn nothing from Anne Frank, etc.? (I could list dozens of names off the top of my head, but this would make a good project for anyone.)

[lapoker17]

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lap, you're a tad sensitive about traders/trading/capitalists getting criticized, huh?

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i don't think so. i am not a finance guy, so i hold no personal bias. but what i do find retarded is that every poker player, when challenged, uses this example, when it doesn't make any sense at all. so i guess i am primarily sensitive to bad logic - especially bad logic that is then wrapped inside some kind of weird sideways justification.

[ahnuld]

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lap, you're a tad sensitive about traders/trading/capitalists getting criticized, huh?

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i don't think so. i am not a finance guy, so i hold no personal bias. but what i do find retarded is that every poker player, when challenged, uses this example, when it doesn't make any sense at all. so i guess i am primarily sensitive to bad logic - especially bad logic that is then wrapped inside some kind of weird sideways justification.

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QFT. Its such a ridiculous argument and shows a lack of understanding.

[technologic]

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tech,

I just have a lot of respect for guys like you who have what it takes to perform and close at the highest levels. I don't know you, but Jason is a friend and really good guy. I know you guys know each other from school and I just hope that you are still grounded enough to help him out with some tips and stuff to help get his tourney game to near the same level as yours.

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well it's hard for me to help him when he's pussying out of the ME this year

[Johnny Hughes]

Money, Money, Money. I have a real flash for David and his critic and inquisitor, Strassner. Money is not the measure of a man. Money is really not worth worshipping. Neither is the materialistic crap that money will buy.

There is so much, "You should be like me." in David's and Strassner's positions. It is difficult enough to monitor yourself in this humorous old world, you should not want others to be like you. It is not important to defend who you are unless you are uncomfortable with it.

Tolerance and an intellectual view of the world tell us that we allow others to have their views.

The original post was innocent enough. Mr. Sklansky was correcting the impression that all the celebrity poker players have a lot of money. It is a bit of a cautionary tale about who to select as your heroes.

Don't have any heroes. Examine your own life and set your own standards, goals, dreams. Beware of who you look up to. It diminishes you.

Mr. Strasser is passing through the age of maturation. Pointing the finger in such a judgemental way is just part of immaturity. It's like-me bias. Look at me. I am wildly successful. Everyone should want to be like me.

David is stuck, like a broken record, saying that limit poker is as much a game of skill as no-limit poker. He's looking under rocks for evidence of his predisposed point of view. I disagree. It is certainly all right for me if these guys believe anything that they want to believe about risk, gambling, pussy, or anything else.

If you will let me be me, I will let you be you. Actually, I'm going to be me either way.

The smartest thing to be in our culture is a lazy genius. Mr. Sklansky does not qualify because he works to hard.

[betgo]

Strasser is this Duke undergrad who thinks he knows everything. He used to always flame my posts on the MTT forum, so at least I am in good company.

With Strasser and Sklansky you have two Gods in conflict, so it gets kind of nasty with thunderbolts being hurled right and left.