32K pot against Bld with 8 high? toughest decision I've ever had!

[Jason Strasser (strassa2)]

in your general thought process, you are disregarding the option that bld has nothing here. when you are talking about implied odds and stuff, especially.

[Jeff W]

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Hehe you guys are hitting on another point that I kind of intentionally neglected to mention. What about HIM having 3-4?

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Isn't he more likely to have a set than 43s(or 64s, 86s)? He's very aggro so I'd expect he's more likely to raise those and overlimp the small pairs.

[samoleus]

While that is a salient point, I was convinced by the turn that he had a real hand. I was about 70% sure that he had a set. Would you not be more or less convinced of that by his play to that point?

[samoleus]

Hmm I don't know about that Jeff. I think Bld is MORE likely to raise a pair against a limper and limp with 3-4 or 86.

[samoleus]

[Number27]

I voted no for the aforemention lack of time. I think you're moving AAA much quicker than you did. (or did not.)

Either way, while I realize that Bld is capable of laying down sets if he thinks they're beat I wonder how often he's going to lay down 55 or 77 in this situation. You're betting $9,000 into an $8,000 pot so wouldn't he have to fold slightly more than one time out of two to make this play profitable?

I don't know if he lays down 77 that often given the action.

[radiaL]

sam,

I must commend you for taking the time and effort that obviously goes into making your posts. I hope you know that the insight that you so selflessly give out does not go unappreciated. Thanks for making these forums a better place.

-radiaL

[samoleus]

appreciate that radial!

[KRANTZ]

what is bld's limping range? does he even have a limping range? is he capable of playing JJ or AA like this? something smells weird with his turn AND river bets - what does he expect you to call with?

i think bld is an opponent very capable of limping to rep a low pocket pair and playing a flop like this EXACTLY like he has a set. that, combined with the strange turn/river aggression makes me feel like this should be a push, without the timing tell

this is such a crazy hand

[Allinlife]

I say pull the trigger for % of telling a SICK hand story.

however, I just can't justify trying to represent overset to bluff out what appears as an underset. I just never met anyone who folds them.