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Old 04-21-2006, 06:09 PM
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I like your thought process but this is a fold. A good player is going to punish you if you make calls like this. That said I have not played with villian so I don't know how good he is, but if I were at the table and saw this play I would defenitly take advantage of you in future hands.
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Old 04-21-2006, 06:12 PM
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if he has Ad and the cards you mentioned, then he still has 15 outs.
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Old 04-21-2006, 06:15 PM
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yes you are correct (I meant 2-1 when I said 3-1) - but if my hand range assignment is correct, it is still a clear call, no?
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Old 04-21-2006, 06:16 PM
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aba20, I do not play the same way against all players. a given opponent's tendencies, moods, my image, etc are all factors in every decision I made.
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Old 04-21-2006, 06:17 PM
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aba20, I do not play the same way against all players. a given opponent's tendencies, moods, my image, etc are all factors in every decision I made.

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fair enough
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Old 04-21-2006, 06:23 PM
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I guess with your read on the player you can call. But I think most players like myself are making that c/r with set/overpair/flush against players like you.

Also would you have most likely done if opponent had bet turn?
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Old 04-21-2006, 06:41 PM
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Flush? I didn't think so. I felt like if he had a big flush, he would undoubtedly want to get value out of it, and he wouldn't blow me off the hand by raising so much.

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nh and nice post. But you have to realise that opponents are more likely to do this against you or a player like BlD: Maybe this is very player dependent but I wouldn't make a habit of making this call, If I were you.
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Old 04-21-2006, 06:41 PM
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yes you are correct (I meant 2-1 when I said 3-1) - but if my hand range assignment is correct, it is still a clear call, no?

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Its pretty close. I would think he has the ace hi flush draw 65-75% of the time in hand one as played. The other 25-35% of the time you are in very very bad shape.

I wish I could have replied before you posted the results of hand no.1 so I could have been the only one saying you played it correctly.
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Old 04-21-2006, 06:54 PM
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leemur I don't think I agree with you. Most players will protect set/overpair/baby flush on a board like that. It's not a situation to go for a check-raise when I can close the action with a return check. I will often check-back with a number of holdings - and then what do you do if a diamond hits?

To answer your question, I would have folded if he bet the turn.
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Old 04-21-2006, 06:56 PM
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Bld, it doesn't surprise me that you are on board with me on this one (nor does it surprise me that most players are not). ... I think it is closer to 80-20, but that is nitpicking here.
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