[Crossposted from MSNL] - bottom set laydown

well he told me he had 66 after the hand was over...idk if he was telling the truth or not and if I'm being result oriented but I really felt I was beat.

[fsuplayer]

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OH NO!

this is AA/KK enough alone to make this a call!

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[john kane]

im with grim. good fold.

if he is a lag its an easy call. but someone this tight as grim explained can only have 66 or even QQ.

[Ansky]

That isn't true.

[Yeti]

Terrible.

[john kane]

this is the problem with so many players i think, they view there only hand strength rather than deciding what the opponent has and then whether they beat them.

he calls with a nuts draw and folds any Q. he reraises with 6s or Qs.

[Ansky]

That isn't true (again).

[john kane]

ps. im not referring to any players in particular, i have a lot of respect for a number of posters, just a lot of players on the forums dont seem to be able to make big laydowns.

thx for backing me up john [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Cesaro]

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ps. im not referring to any players in particular, i have a lot of respect for a number of posters, just a lot of players on the forums dont seem to be able to make big laydowns.

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I'm sorry but laying down bottom set here for 66 bb's or whatever isn't a "Big laydown"...it's just stupid. I think people on this forum forget sometimes that human beings are not robots. People will do crazy [censored] sometimes at the poker table, they will deviate from their "image". Sometimes people just make random plays and they don't know why. Sometimes they even BLUFF.

You really think he has exactly 66 here more than he has an overpair, 65, AK suited, 78 suited or a bluff?

There's no way you can be that sure to lay down in that small of a pot. Not getting away from undersets in spots like these is not a big leak in your game and I think folding here is probably -ev.