How bad can you be with AA in an MTT?

[adanthar]

CO needs to fold PF, since he's clearly against AA and not in as good a shape as he thinks he is.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=41723
pokenum -h ac as - 7c 7d
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ac 1375194 80.31 331347 19.35 5763 0.34 0.805
7c 7d 331347 19.35 1375194 80.31 5763 0.34 0.195

[dmk]

not to mention those times you're up against 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

[Foucault]

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CO needs to fold PF, since he's clearly against AA and not in as good a shape as he thinks he is.

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=41723
pokenum -h ac as - 7c 7d
Holdem Hi: 1712304 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
As Ac 1375194 80.31 331347 19.35 5763 0.34 0.805
7c 7d 331347 19.35 1375194 80.31 5763 0.34 0.195

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I'm not usually a conspiracy theorist, but is it possible that Villain has the RNG cracked?

1 games 0.030 secs 33 games/sec

Board: Ah 7s 7h 8h 4h
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 100.0000 % 100.00% 00.00% { 7c7d }
Hand 2: 00.0000 % 00.00% 00.00% { AcAs }

[Superfluous Man]

Sorry, the real question is, how bad can you be with quad 7s in a MTT?

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1662340
pokenum -h 6h 5h - 7d 7c -- 7s 7h ah 4h 8h
Holdem Hi: 1 enumerated board containing 7s Ah 8h 7h 4h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
6h 5h 1 100.00 0 0.00 0 0.00 1.000
7c 7d 0 0.00 1 100.00 0 0.00 0.000

OMG! FOLD QUADS!

(oh [censored], beaten)

[Sam T.]

Complete donkey play.

Put the villain on a hand. He called a pre-flop raise. Clearly a pocket pair or strong ace. But since you have two aces, and there's one on the board, it's gotta be the pair.

So you bet the ace high flop and he raises you! He's saying, "I can beat your pair of aces!" What hand does this except 77? He might as well flip up his cards on the spot. Not folding to the flop raise is criminal.

[NinjaMan]

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Complete donkey play.

Put the villain on a hand. He called a pre-flop raise. Clearly a pocket pair or strong ace. But since you have two aces, and there's one on the board, it's gotta be the pair.

So you bet the ace high flop and he raises you! He's saying, "I can beat your pair of aces!" What hand does this except 77? He might as well flip up his cards on the spot. Not folding to the flop raise is criminal.

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Even if he tables the 77 before I call, I STILL CALL. The case Ace can come, and even if I lose, I'm the red zone, which is really the goal anyway.

[Nez477]

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP (t1495)
<font color="#C00000">CO (t3665)</font>
Button (t4070)
SB (t2155)
BB (t3770)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t3450)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t150, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (t375) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t1000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t3300</font>, CO calls t2300.

Turn: (t6975) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t6975) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t6975

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ac As (full house, aces full of sevens).
CO has 7d 7c (four of a kind, sevens).
Outcome: CO wins t6975. </font>

Just fold this on the flop raise, you arent in as good of shape as you think some of the time.

Board: Ah 7h 7s
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 04.4444 % 04.44% 00.00% { AcAs }
Hand 2: 95.5556 % 95.56% 00.00% { 7c7d }

~Justin

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Justin,

This is my favorite thread of April, if not this year. Absolutely awesome.

Brad

[tubasteve]

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Even if he tables the 77 before I call, I STILL CALL. The case Ace can come, and even if I lose, I'm the red zone, which is really the goal anyway.

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rofl

[Jurollo]

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Even if he tables the 77 before I call, I STILL CALL. The case Ace can come, and even if I lose, I'm the red zone, which is really the goal anyway.

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God, he has us covered fish. If anything you should raise to like 2500 or so to get info, when he repops we'll have about 800 or so left and be in perfect pouncing position. He repops we fold and got a whole lot more +EV spots coming up now. I think that is clearly the best line here.
~Justin

[betgo]

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