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#21
01-10-2006, 09:58 AM
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Re: 666
i don't get this. why did you stop on the flop when there is exactly one hand (6 combos) that you are behind? i can't see myself getting off of the gas here until maybe a 3rd bet is put in on the turn.
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#23
01-10-2006, 01:04 PM
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Re: 666
I stopped because I wanted to get more than one bet in on the turn and I didn´t think that it was that likely as my preflop play looks alot like whatever pocket pair, so I thought a cap would show too much strenght to get action on the turn.
When SB check-raise ahead of me, I think he will often have 99 as he bet out on the flop from early when the good hands probably are late, so it looks like he is trapping, then he coldcalled, so maybe not, but when he wakes up again on the turn, it looks alot like he didn´t want to shut people out on the flop. I think he is aware that there is an overpair in the pot, so I dont see him playing JJ/TT like this very often. When he has it, I think he will check-raise the flop more often than he will lead and when he leads, I dont think he will check-raise the turn very often. The MP player is making a mistake if he calls one more on the turn getting 16-17:1 or whatever it was and I´m not sure he will call for two, so I figured I was better off taking his calls for one, when I´m often behind to the other player anyway. I think I played the turn right, but I´m still not sure if I should have flatcalled the flop first time or capped it the way I played.
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#24
01-10-2006, 01:09 PM
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Re: 666
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Probably not, but why does it matter? You know SB isn't going anywhere, so why not make those guaranteed* extra bets instead of hoping that MP overcalls all the way? [/ QUOTE ] I think SB has me beat often enough that I´m better off letting MP make a bad call for one bet than shutting him out for two and opening me to a 3bet from the small blind. [ QUOTE ] *When I say "guaranteed," I mean that SB is guaranteed to at least call you, not that you're guaranteed to win. But like I said, you're ahead of 12 of his hands and behind to 3, so the 3-bet is definitely correct. [/ QUOTE ] I think you should discount the SB JJ/TT hands alot given his flop/turn play. If you discount them by 50%, then I think you would prefer to just call and let MP draw to his 2 outer without sufficient odds. They are alot worse than 16:1 when he probably will call the river too. If MP was a loose player, then it would make sense to 3bet lighter as you get 2:1 on your money, I dont think you do that here.
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