Duke Lacrosse Team Story

[junglewarfare]

Wow, there are some really disgusting posts in this thread. Right, lets talk about how women faking rape "happens all the time" and complain about how the media presumes guilt and how it turns into a media circus. First, nothing in the article presumes guilt, and second, well yeah of course the media is giving it a lot of attention, it is a pretty serious story and it looks like there has been a huge local reaction. and to whoever brought up the st johns players, it doesnt really help you or prove anything by bringing up anecdotal evidence where the players were rightfully acquitted. Saying "oh yeah this one time some woman said some guys raped her when in fact they didn't" doesn't mean [censored], think of how annoyed you get when you hear campus feminists going on and lecturing everyone about how "those frat boys gang raped that girl on the lawn of their house." You're just as dumb as they are.

edit- ligastar is a troll and tries to be as insulting to duke at every opportunity and that doesn't help him, but he ends up being right here.

[aheravi]

If anyone cares to follow that closely (I'm an alum, and I certainly don't) link to the school newspaper, The Chronicle.

With no opinions in either direction, this is going to get interesing for several reasons:

-Issue of sexual assaults in college
-longstanding "Ivory Tower vs. Poverty-stricken town" mentality, plus the fact that the overwhelming number of students aren't even from the state
-Issue of universities dealing with punishment for alleged criminal activities, outside the scope of normal law enforcement.
-Issues of "athletes run amok."

I'm not saying these are one way or another. But it's going to make for a sad show. Also, once many national players (so help me if Al Sharpton shows up) latch on to the issue, truth and justice are out the window.

[Clarkmeister]

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Also, once many national players (so help me if Al Sharpton shows up) latch on to the issue, truth and justice are out the window.


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While I'm sure it'll be a media circus, it will likely be a drop in the bucket of the attention it would have gotten if this had been a predominately black team accused of brutalizing and raping a white woman.

[MCS]

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dook is this bastion of higher education surrounded by some sketchy areas

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I went to high school in Durham, and I mostly agree with this assessment. Not as sketchy as any dangerous big city area, though. It's not so bad.

I assume that they raped this woman, and I hope the guilty get shown how it feels in jail. But they probably won't.

[roundmound]

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dook is this bastion of higher education surrounded by some sketchy areas

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I went to high school in Durham, and I mostly agree with this assessment. Not as sketchy as any dangerous big city area, though. It's not so bad.

I assume that they raped this woman, and I hope the guilty get shown how it feels in jail. But they probably won't.

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If they do go to jail I wouldn't be surprised to see them get raped. 4 white boys stickin it to a black girl isn't going to be popular with the cell block.

[MCS]

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dook is this bastion of higher education surrounded by some sketchy areas

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I went to high school in Durham, and I mostly agree with this assessment. Not as sketchy as any dangerous big city area, though. It's not so bad.

I assume that they raped this woman, and I hope the guilty get shown how it feels in jail. But they probably won't.

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If they do go to jail I wouldn't be surprised to see them get raped. 4 white boys stickin it to a black girl isn't going to be popular with the cell block.

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It's not so much I think they'll skate in jail; it's that I don't think they'll go.

[ligastar]

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It blows my mind that with how easy it is to score some ass on todays college campuses,even for nerds,...guys still resort to rape.

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From what I understand about studies on rape it is less about getting ass and more about the power. dook is this bastion of higher education surrounded by some sketchy areas ... depending on how this unfolds (i.e. if and how many of these white players go to jail) this could turn into a sticky situation as the black leaders of Durham will not stand for an O.J. like trial and verdict.

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please don't turn your college rivalry thinking into a judgment of the personalities of duke students.

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I didn't. Shame on you for implying I did such a thing.

[trapsetter]

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Also, once many national players (so help me if Al Sharpton shows up) latch on to the issue, truth and justice are out the window.


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While I'm sure it'll be a media circus, it will likely be a drop in the bucket of the attention it would have gotten if this had been a predominately black team accused of brutalizing and raping a white woman.

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I don't know about that. The media would love to topple one of the biggest symbols/bastions of privelege/establishment, collegiate men's lacrosse, particularly at a top-notch school like Duke. This is life imitating art here, Tom Wolfe in particular.

African American leadership in this country is being seriously tested already. People are fuming over the Katrina debacle. Granted, this Duke thing is an isolated incident (if it's even true), but it will touch on many of the same themes.

The press seems to be tiptoeing so far. That will change as soon as more information comes out.

[FlyWf]

Seriously, it's like you guys think the Lacrosse team is full of dumb jocks. It's full of spoiled rich kids. Rich kids who will have very good lawyers.

[bills217]

Maybe I'm just out of the loop because I don't know much about Duke or the culture of Durham...but why is this such a story?

Of course it should be a local story in Durham, but why am I being bombarded with this stuff on ESPN? If Duke had won the lacrosse nat'l title, they'd get a blip near the end of SportsCenter.

Women get raped on college campuses all the time. It's very sad, I wish it never happened, but it does.

And no one ever deserves to be raped or physically harmed, I'm not implying that, but...it sounds like this woman put herself at a greater risk of this happening by being in that setting rather than being at, say, the library. That should be a safety lesson for women to avoid those kinds of settings.

And, unless there is evidence the rape was racially motivated, I don't see why the race should be an issue, and I'd think the same if the roles were reversed.