Life Time Running Bad

[brick]

try this:
21% vip at 6max
and
14% vip at full ring

only play at tables with at least one huge fish. 60+ vip.
Don't play 6 max below 2/4 because the rake is very high.

[poker_n00b]

jeesus 30 vpip and this guy is wondering...

[brick]

i agree

[Riginal]

Sure, I want to give you the benefit of thr doubt but -

"My biggest flaw is running bad and bad luck"

Do you realize that this is the exact attitude that long term losing players have that allow the winning players to consistently take thier money ?

[CrayZee]

From the other posts, break down the possibilities and try to think of which one(s) are more likely to apply to you:

1. You aren't as good as you think you are.

2. Murphy's Law. Yeah...if it's possible, it'll happen to someone eventually. Is it likely? Yeah, there's a lot of luck in poker...but that tends to be short-run.

3. You're sample is too small for it to be considered the long run, but if you've played 20k hands per month for the last 3 years... Sorry.

4. Poker is rigged. I like this one best!

5. Combination of #'s 1-4. No, I like this one best!!

It's just not too likely to "run bad" for a lifetime although it is possible. It's also possible to win the lottery, but that's also not too likely to happen to most people..otherwise I'd be waiting in line for my next ticket.

[jesusson]

I have played stretches of 30,000 hands with 21 vpip and have had similar results to 30 vpip. I find that the blinds eat me away playing 21% especially when my aces and kings consistently lose to unsuited random cards that some fish calls 2 cold with... I wonder how they can call with my rock like table image if I am only playing 21% of my hands but they do.

By playing more hands I generate more rake which turns into more rakeback and more bonuses and this is how I have been surviving the game. I have even ventured a few thousand hands playing 50% to try and maximize on this theory while picking up pots I normally wouldn't. This way of playing did not fair well for me because I didn't like the huge swings.

I have been trying to find a balance and playing less hands and smarter poker. The only change I am noticing is less rakeback which equals less profits because I am running at -1 bb/100 over 50,000 hands now...

[Bruce D]

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First of all, I have read posts where winning (high limit) players are put in 50 and even 60 percent voluntary. If for meta game purposes is besides the point. The point being that 30 vpip may seem high to some and low to other.



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The fact is that most of these high limit players play heads up. They HAVE to see that many flops.

Have a look at this example here

If you are playing 30% in full ring games 10-handed then I would label you as loose.