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Old 11-15-2007, 11:45 AM
W3rdy303 W3rdy303 is offline
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Default Re: An old hand from my database

I'd like to know how you've played this table so far...yeah he's a loose cannon, but a lot of his play in this hand hedges on how he perceives you as well..

If you're a rock, this is a tougher decision.

I definitely dont push flop...Flatcall and decide on the turn..You're probably guaranteed a JK, JQ, maybe JT stack on the turn as well if thats what he's actually got
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: An old hand from my database

stack off.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:09 PM
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i shove.... id be shocked if he folded, having already commited close to $100. youre ahead alot
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:11 PM
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If you stove a range, and its 50/50, should you always shove?
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:13 PM
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Yes, look at all the money in the pot.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: An old hand from my database

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If you stove a range, and its 50/50, should you always shove?

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This is pretty obviously not true.

In this scenario though JESUS CHRIST SHOVELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: An old hand from my database

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If you stove a range, and its 50/50, should you always shove?

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This is pretty obviously not true.

In this scenario though JESUS CHRIST SHOVELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

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Whats not true? The range, or the assertion?
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: An old hand from my database

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If you stove a range, and its 50/50, should you always shove?

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This is pretty obviously not true.

In this scenario though JESUS CHRIST SHOVELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

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Whats not true? The range, or the assertion?

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The assertion. There are many times you are 50/50 against his range where calling will lead to higher EV opportunities.
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:11 PM
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Default Re: An old hand from my database

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If you stove a range, and its 50/50, should you always shove?

[/ QUOTE ]

This is pretty obviously not true.

In this scenario though JESUS CHRIST SHOVELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

[/ QUOTE ]

Whats not true? The range, or the assertion?

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The assertion. There are many times you are 50/50 against his range where calling will lead to higher EV opportunities.

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I assume its better not to get it in when you can get it in on a safe turn vs a monster draw, where you will have more equity (kind of an Omaha concept, but it still works)?
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: An old hand from my database

I swear i disagree with SSNL advice so often?

If anybody is interested in results:

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I did decide to call and see what happened on the turn. It came the rainbow Q, i checked, he bet 100 flat, i folded, he showed a set of 6's.</font>

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I assume its better not to get it in when you can get it in on a safe turn vs a monster draw, where you will have more equity (kind of an Omaha concept, but it still works)?

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This was also in the Small Stakes Hold'em:WBWEP book.
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