|
|
#21
10-22-2007, 05:34 PM
|
|||
|
|||
Re: AC-ism in history?
I would really say an AC 'society' has failed if it becomes a state and there exists people like yourself who feels this is a tyrannic practice. 
|
|
#22
10-22-2007, 06:22 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: AC-ism in history?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Find a "near AC society" in history, and you'll find a society that failed for the very reasons that the board "statists" have maintained are ACs weaknesses as a theory or as a practical possibility. [/ QUOTE ] Strange, I can't recall the Western U.S. failing. Seems to be doing pretty well actually. I guess it would have failed if statism hadn't crept in and taken over. [/ QUOTE ] ACism failed, if that wasn't clear from my comment I apologize. In the case of the Western US (if was ever really "near AC", I'll grant ou that) ACism failed because of the natural human predliction toward government. The Western states ASKED to become states. If AC were such a great thing, they would have stayed independent. I've anticipated your response...I'm ready, whenever you are.
|
|
#23
10-22-2007, 06:26 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: AC-ism in history?
[ QUOTE ]
I would really say an AC 'society' has failed if it becomes a state and there exists people like yourself who feels this is a tyrannic practice. [/ QUOTE ] Saw this after my response. Strange that you understood what I meant by failing but Alex couldnt. I dont think the phrase starting with "and there exists" is necessary. If there was ever an AC society and it is no longer AC, there is a reason for it that can be shown to be a practical or theoretical failing of AC itself.
|
|
#24
10-22-2007, 06:48 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: AC-ism in history?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Find a "near AC society" in history, and you'll find a society that failed for the very reasons that the board "statists" have maintained are ACs weaknesses as a theory or as a practical possibility. [/ QUOTE ] Strange, I can't recall the Western U.S. failing. Seems to be doing pretty well actually. I guess it would have failed if statism hadn't crept in and taken over. [/ QUOTE ] ACism failed, if that wasn't clear from my comment I apologize. In the case of the Western US (if was ever really "near AC", I'll grant ou that) ACism failed because of the natural human predliction toward government. The Western states ASKED to become states. If AC were such a great thing, they would have stayed independent. I've anticipated your response...I'm ready, whenever you are. [/ QUOTE ] They asked to become states at a time when the federal government followed the Constitution and had practically zero interference in what states did. A time when we didn't go around invading random countries or have Social Security, Welfare, a War on Drugs or an Income Tax. They certainly made a mistake that they likely wouldn't make again with the same information. I wouldn't call making a mistake that future generations can learn from and not make again "failing" though.
|
|
#25
10-22-2007, 06:50 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: AC-ism in history?
[ QUOTE ]
I would really say an AC 'society' has failed if it becomes a state and there exists people like yourself who feels this is a tyrannic practice. [/ QUOTE ] That's certainly not how I would use the world "fail" because it doesn't say anything bad about ACism, just that people made some mistakes. Obviously the goal of history is to learn from it and not repeat the same mistakes. This doesn't make AC a "failure".
|
|
#26
10-22-2007, 06:53 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: AC-ism in history?
[ QUOTE ]
If there was ever an AC society and it is no longer AC, there is a reason for it that can be shown to be a practical or theoretical failing of AC itself. [/ QUOTE ] So if Hitler had conquered us in WWII, that would have been a failure of our form of government? Interesting theory, but I don't agree.
|
|
#27
10-22-2007, 10:11 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: AC-ism in history?
[ QUOTE ]
The Western states ASKED to become states. If AC were such a great thing, they would have stayed independent. [/ QUOTE ] 1) Fallacy of aggregation. States don't ask. People do. And those people don't speak for everyone. 2) Appeal to status quo. This is sort of like an anthropomorphic fallacy. What we observe must be the "right" or "good" thing. JFK's assassination must have been good thing, because if his staying alive were such a great thing he would have stayed alive AMIRITE?
|
|
#29
10-23-2007, 06:39 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: AC-ism in history?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] By putting profits above people and their rights AC-ism seems [/ QUOTE ] ACism doesn't do this. [/ QUOTE ] Are you sure? [/ QUOTE ] I'm certain.
|
|
#30
10-23-2007, 06:47 AM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: AC-ism in history?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] If there was ever an AC society and it is no longer AC, there is a reason for it that can be shown to be a practical or theoretical failing of AC itself. [/ QUOTE ] So if Hitler had conquered us in WWII, that would have been a failure of our form of government? Interesting theory, but I don't agree. [/ QUOTE ] Also all those democracies that were overthrown by the US show that democracy is a failure and totalitarianism is a success.
|
 |
|
|
Linear Mode
