$50K WSOP HORSE Tourney

[The Rivercard]

There is a £750/$1350 SHOE tourney at therivercard poker festival AT MANCHESTER UNITID in June and that is a 2 day tourney. At the moment they are thinking about making the final NLH but are taking a pole to gauge opinion. I hope that they play the final as the rest of the tourney.I am not sick of NLH but like the challange of all the games

[NickMPK]

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There is a £750/$1350 SHOE tourney at therivercard poker festival AT MANCHESTER UNITID in June and that is a 2 day tourney. At the moment they are thinking about making the final NLH but are taking a pole to gauge opinion. I hope that they play the final as the rest of the tourney.I am not sick of NLH but like the challange of all the games

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If the tournament is not going to be televised, they should keep it HORSE in the final table.

But I agree with the decision to change the final table to NLHE for the WSOP event. This will be rare chance to see a table full of the best players playing for a huge prize pool, so it should be on TV.

But you really can't televise HORSE. Half of the broadcast would be devoted to explaining the rules. And moreover, Stud games just don't televise very well...most of the hands that get on TV are just bet/call, bet/call on most streets.

So I think this is a good compromise. It would be nice to have one or two other mixed game events for lower stakes that wouldn't be on TV, but but this is better than nothing.

BTW, with Party running satellites, I would expect well over 100 players, so first place should be at least $2 million.

[tom10167]

Stud is really tough to watch on TV it's just difficult to really follow the hands the way you can do live.

Omaha, Hold Em, and I'd imagine forms of draw would be interesting to watch,

[MicroBob]

I don't think it would be nearly as difficult to cover the mixed-games as many people think.

They barely explain the rules anyway, "there's the first 3 cards, then you bet, then another card, then you bet again."
this really isn't explaining a whole lot that you aren't already seeing anyway.

You can explain the most basic rules of the game as you go along.


Regarding the viewers getting confused: I maintain that it will just look like a big 'dealers-choice' game.
For many years home-games everywhere were just whatever game the dealer could imagine, "red 7's and low-spade in the hole are wild" or whatever.
I'm guessing that most home-games now are strictly hold-em.

But I don't think it's such a stretch to have your viewers keep up with what's happening.
And to explain that these players are competing in a tourney that is more about best 'overall' poker-player. Not just hold-em.
And that guys like Greenstein and Doyle have a significant edge because they are more experienced with all the games.

I think that a final-table of HORSE would be extremely compelling.


They showed a final-table of Razz a couple years ago and also showed a final-table of Omaha.
Adding in a triple-draw game to the mix isn't that big a deal.

ESPN should really lighten-up and just do the right thing with the final-table of this.
Harrah's should also consider putting their foot down on this one.

For a $50k event ESPN should really be bending over backwards to want to show it to viewers who already think that a $10k buy-in tournament is impressive.
As well as the fact that it will likely be a star-studded final-table.

(total guess) If Harrah's took a stand it's possible ESPN might say, "Well, if you insist...then I guess we'll just have to broadcast it as best we can."

[AlphaWice]

Why a horse tourney? There are 3 stud games... pfff.

They should have a holdem, an omaha, a stud, and a lowball-draw.

[The Rivercard]

I agree that the WSOP will have over 100 players.There are a lot of sponsors getting into poker and with party running sats dont be suprised to see 150. Poker needs to attract more plaayers worldwide and NLH will not keep people interested forever
With regards to the Man Utd Tourney if there are enough entrants 200+ it will be on sky sports and I hope to keep the final table to the SHOE format as I am one of those sad old poker players that like to see the variation and skill that these games bring. If broadcast correctly it should make for interesting viewing

[NickMPK]

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I don't think it would be nearly as difficult to cover the mixed-games as many people think.

They barely explain the rules anyway, "there's the first 3 cards, then you bet, then another card, then you bet again."
this really isn't explaining a whole lot that you aren't already seeing anyway.


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It would basically be difficult to explain because of the high/low split games, and the rules about qualifying for a low hand. But more importantly, it would be difficult to cover because you have so many hands where there is a split pot, and where people are quartering or drawing to part of the pot. How to you show the percentages in this case? Not that it couldn't be done, just that it wouldn't be understood by most of the audience.

And the results of a hand are usually much less definitive. It seems less compelling to try to watch one player "win" by taking half the pot, and another player "lose" by only taking a quarter of it.

[jackdaniels]

Is the whole event played as a NL (vs. PL or L) event or only the final NLHE table?

[Jourdain]

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Is the whole event played as a NL (vs. PL or L) event or only the final NLHE table?

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Only final table is NL as far as I know.

[betgo]

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Why a horse tourney? There are 3 stud games... pfff.

They should have a holdem, an omaha, a stud, and a lowball-draw.

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Most of what they play at the "big game" is limit mixed games, so some of the superstars wanted that as an event. It is also considered a supreme test of skill. There are also other high stakes and high midlimit mixed games. A lot of older players know the games well from when they were all popular.