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Old 10-17-2007, 12:54 AM
garcia1000 garcia1000 is offline
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Default Re: am i playing this incorrectly? it\'s cost me alot of money lately

Dear OP,

I think your problems are that you are underbankrolled, you do not understand the concept of EV, you are predictable, and you overestimate your poker skills.
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:57 AM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: am i playing this incorrectly? it\'s cost me alot of money lately

lol, live full ring $100.

Can we move this to the cynicism and mockery forum? (bbv)
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:19 AM
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Default Re: am i playing this incorrectly? it\'s cost me alot of money lately

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Can we move this to the cynicism and mockery forum?

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Old 10-20-2007, 11:29 PM
SengioKang SengioKang is offline
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Default Re: am i playing this incorrectly? it\'s cost me alot of money lately

conclusion: you're all right... i'm a squeaky underbankrolled midget. i play tight and get murked by donks who crush me cuz i'm too good for them [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

definitely not undereducated tho... just poor and playing on someone elses money when i go to casino. and trying to not get money bad then pushing makes me lose.

i do open 45s and stuff like that too... and pocket 6's and AA ... but in ridiculously loose aggro games, the limp RR is a proven get it in the middler....

ah variance
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Old 10-20-2007, 11:54 PM
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guy who is high stakes regular (5/10 NL) for this casino asks me if i have AA or KK again cuz he's saw me do this 2 or 3 times w/ those hands on the table... i give off a false tell of weakness (shifting in chair uneasy a bit) <font color="blue">he cold calls AK</font>...

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Ignore everybody who is telling you that you're playing wrong.

Are you maximizing your value? No.
Are you squeezing every last BB out of the table with your approach? No.
Is your technique +EV? Yes. Absolutely. Extremely +EV. Without any doubt.

You describe two hands where you get all-in postflop for 50 BBs with KK or AA against hands that are drawing to two or three outs. That means you're putting most of the money in as a better-than-90% favorite. You got unlucky twice -- shake it off and keep doing what you're doing.

To those who say this is horrible: this is LIVE PLAY. Your advice is ridiculous because you're failing to take into account the true table conditions. It sounds like most of you either never play live or have completely forgotten what live play is like. Playing live $1/$2 NL is like playing online mid-stakes play money tables. The typical Party Poker $10NL player from two years ago could beat the snot out of the typical live $1/$2 NL player. Sure, hero's plays are absolutely transparent to even the most simple-minded opponents. Luckily, these opponents aren't even THAT simple-minded. Remember, open-pushing AA preflop is only bad IF YOU DON'T GET CALLED. Hero's play is just fine if he can get away with it, and he can. Just look at the highlights of his post:

- UTG+1 raises to $7 and gets two cold calls.
- A ten-handed table has SEVEN LIMPERS PREFLOP.

These aren't anomalies or strange "once in a rare while" occurances -- these are things that happen frequently in live play, especially at bad non-Vegas places. No, hero's play is perfectly acceptable given the table conditions -- surrounded by non-thinking non-observant live monkeys.

Only one part of the original post really stood out as problematic to me:

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i'm running bad lately and it sucks when i borrow 100 or 200 to play and lose it to stuff like this


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You need a bankroll. If you're playing with borrowed money, you're not ready to play. Take some cash online, play at the $10NL tables, run up your cash until you've got $1000 or so, THEN go back to your live casino and nit it up. You'll play better and you'll tilt less, and the losses won't be so soul-crushing to you.
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