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I thought you said we don't have the right to judge, that we must accept since he is perfect and we can never understand his perfection.
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#22
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ok, that's impossible. [/ QUOTE ] Why? [ QUOTE ] .unless you're doing the usual thing where you make up your own definitions of words in order to completely derail the discussion and make it impossible to argue with you. [/ QUOTE ] I get my definitions from the Bible or the dictionary. Which do you think I've made up? Or do you just like to make irrelevant accusations you never support like most of the atheists here? |
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#23
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On what someone says his standard is. [/ QUOTE ] If you mean God's, then yes, what God says His standard is. What's the alternative? |
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I thought you said we don't have the right to judge, that we must accept since he is perfect and we can never understand his perfection. [/ QUOTE ] We're using the word judge equivocally. You have to make a judgment to accept or reject God's judgment. |
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[ QUOTE ] ok, that's impossible. [/ QUOTE ] Why? [/ QUOTE ] because you can't judge without making use of your ability to judge and your own knowledge. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] .unless you're doing the usual thing where you make up your own definitions of words in order to completely derail the discussion and make it impossible to argue with you. [/ QUOTE ] I get my definitions from the Bible or the dictionary. Which do you think I've made up? Or do you just like to make irrelevant accusations you never support like most of the atheists here? [/ QUOTE ] i don't know, maybe "ability," "judge," "knowledge," it's hard to say. |
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God doesn't say. Someone or some group says that God says. That's how they get you to believe there's no choice in the matter, He's perfect and you can't even begin to understand, so just follow and obey or go to hell.
And when people just follow their infallible god you get 9/11 and other such tragedies. |
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And when people just follow their infallible god you get 9/11 and other such tragedies. [/ QUOTE ] You have no choice but to follow something or someone. |
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#28
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But honestly following the truth will lead to constant revising and reneging in every sphere.
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#29
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Fine. But don't tell me the imaginary being you choose to follow is not understood by me because He is perfect and knows better and I'm not and can't begin to understand his magnificence.
This is what Lenin and Mao told the people of their countries: that they understood the Higher Order of things about which they were ignorant and following their lead would take them to the Promised Land. It's a recipe for disaster in both the political and religious arena. |
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#30
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I throw a beautiful unhittable slider that nips the outside corner and Not Ready knows he doesn't have to even swing at it (and surely miss). Because he knows a bunch of atheists are going to insist on coming in to throw fastballs up the middle, which at the very least he will be able to foul off.
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