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Old 07-31-2007, 06:30 PM
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Wasn't it already shown that he doctored/changed the HHs in the word document to make it look like they were beats?

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would be pretty awesome and standard if that did happen.

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you can't say this w/o linking said thread
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:30 PM
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I'm down with FGators, he and myself are the only known 80+ buy in downswing 2p2ers, ship it.

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thank you for your continued support
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:30 PM
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this is hilarious.
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:31 PM
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BEAT: FGators actually has a bit of truth in his statement
I've looked at tens of thousands of allin confrontations and found something very, very strange; The best hand does not hold up near as often as it should. It's statistically significant and pretty damning. There is absolutely no way things are on the up and up from the data set I have examined.

BRAG: The opponents suck enough on the whole that it's still +ev for me.

VARIANCE: Found the same phenomenoma with a decent size sample from OnGame.



METHOD: Used a SQL query to pull out allin confrontations where both sets of hole cards were known. Calculated the odds/ pot equity based on the known hole cards and board. Became evident that the best hand was doing quite poorly on a few summary stats and ocular examination. Then, ran monte carlos to see how poorly the favored hand does in reality compared to thousands of random trials. It was UGLY!


It's rigged, but I don't think I want to bring out everything as it is my source of income.
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: Breaking development: Pokerstars to be sued for cheating

awesome
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:36 PM
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BEAT: FGators actually has a bit of truth in his statement
I've looked at tens of thousands of allin confrontations and found something very, very strange; The best hand does not hold up near as often as it should. It's statistically significant and pretty damning. There is absolutely no way things are on the up and up from the data set I have examined.

BRAG: The opponents suck enough on the whole that it's still +ev for me.

VARIANCE: Found the same phenomenoma with a decent size sample from OnGame.



METHOD: Used a SQL query to pull out allin confrontations where both sets of hole cards were known. Calculated the odds/ pot equity based on the known hole cards and board. Became evident that the best hand was doing quite poorly on a few summary stats and ocular examination. Then, ran monte carlos to see how poorly the favored hand does in reality compared to thousands of random trials. It was UGLY!


It's rigged, but I don't think I want to bring out everything as it is my source of income.

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WTF
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: Breaking development: Pokerstars to be sued for cheating

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BEAT: FGators actually has a bit of truth in his statement
I've looked at tens of thousands of allin confrontations and found something very, very strange; The best hand does not hold up near as often as it should. It's statistically significant and pretty damning. There is absolutely no way things are on the up and up from the data set I have examined.

BRAG: The opponents suck enough on the whole that it's still +ev for me.

VARIANCE: Found the same phenomenoma with a decent size sample from OnGame.



METHOD: Used a SQL query to pull out allin confrontations where both sets of hole cards were known. Calculated the odds/ pot equity based on the known hole cards and board. Became evident that the best hand was doing quite poorly on a few summary stats and ocular examination. Then, ran monte carlos to see how poorly the favored hand does in reality compared to thousands of random trials. It was UGLY!


It's rigged, but I don't think I want to bring out everything as it is my source of income.

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WTF

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yes, it's true...Stars is rigged

LDO
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:40 PM
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Can someone with a reasonable datamine of him run PokerEV and post graphs.

Please.

EDIT: nevermind, stars doesn't showdown hands when AI.
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:40 PM
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I'm down with FGators, he and myself are the only known 80+ buy in downswing 2p2ers, we're truly terrible.

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FYP
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:41 PM
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I'm down with FGators, he and myself are the only known 80+ buy in downswing 2p2ers, we're the reason gambler2k4 still thinks he's good.

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FYP

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