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#21
07-16-2007, 06:43 PM
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Re: Big Stacked AKs
Yeah they would have been good answers if I could do math. Anyway, If he could call the reraise with an unpaired hand besides AQ I'm more of a fan of checking behind and letting him bluff. Sometimes I make the mistake of assuming that since I'd only call it with AQ (barring reads of course) I assume he won't either, which is probably not the case, thus my tidy ROI. I assumed his range was mostly pairs, and we'd have to fold on the turn. Putting villain on a range that allows us to call a turn shove makes checking the flop a lot better.
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#23
07-16-2007, 06:49 PM
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Re: Big Stacked AKs
The catch is that if you shove...at least I know if someone shoves a flop on me, it's typically not a made hand, but strong draw semi-bluff - I never see shoving for value unless it was a slowplayed monster on the river.
So if someone shoves here, I'm calling if I have any part of the board or any PP...I'm folding AQ, KQ here or any other unpaired non-AK hand. So worse hands fold, better hands call - technically if better hands call you're still getting odds and it's not bad, but making worse hands fold is bad. Worse hands will bet(as stated repeatedly here) on the turn because they think you are scared.
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#24
07-16-2007, 06:49 PM
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Re: Big Stacked AKs
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Why does everyone want to bet? [/ QUOTE ] Because we're the favorite to any pair, half the overpairs (and getting odds 1 in 3 to call AA KK maybe..too lazy for the math). We're calling mosts turn bets so I try to end this here and now. Big enough pot. That's my why....
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#27
07-17-2007, 01:22 AM
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Re: Big Stacked AKs
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[ QUOTE ] People who are saying check behind are we calling a shove on a 2 spade turn? If not then this is awful. [/ QUOTE ] Yes. [/ QUOTE ] Still hate it. Med pairs and such might shove turn and they might of folded the flop. This justs seems really bad. Shoving flop is sooo much better.
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#28
07-17-2007, 01:25 AM
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Re: Big Stacked AKs
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] People who are saying check behind are we calling a shove on a 2 spade turn? If not then this is awful. [/ QUOTE ] Yes. [/ QUOTE ] Still hate it. Med pairs and such might shove turn and they might of folded the flop. This justs seems really bad. Shoving flop is sooo much better. [/ QUOTE ] Depends what turns they're shoving and what turns they won't and the likelyness of such.
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