100-200 Live: Thin River Value Bet?

[rtc89]

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the 10k and calling a shove idea is capitalizing on the same human instinct that involves having sex in an elevator with a girl you just met in the elevator or the one that drives you to take your umbrella and smack the back of a new york yellow cabbie that pisses the [censored] out of you.


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good lord, obv the voice of experience, momentary loss of impulse control is not so black and white

this is like 20 completely different possible mental processes if you consider whether you are drunk/sober/going up/coming down and whether the (possibly very) hypothetical girl is hot/avg/dog ugly and whether your umbrella is working and whether it's raining and whether you are married/single/boy-trapped-in-a-girl's body/other, whether you have ever had sex in an elevator, whether it was good sex, whether you caught a diseasej/still have it/are cured, whether you have ever had sex at all/desperately want to/desperately avoiding it (unlikely) ... omg please

[James282]

Not so thin..this is a black and white protect your bluffs value bet. If you'd ever fire off 20k with QJs here then you need to bet the ace. You start checking back top pair in a spot like this and you'll have a tough time firing 2 or 3 barrels in the future against observant opponents. You are likely ahead, and you gain a ton of value if he doesn't call, too, for obvious reasons. Be interested to hear what he had(and who he was for that matter).

James

[thatpfunk]

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Not so thin..this is a black and white protect your bluffs value bet. If you'd ever fire off 20k with QJs here then you need to bet the ace. You start checking back top pair in a spot like this and you'll have a tough time firing 2 or 3 barrels in the future against observant opponents. You are likely ahead, and you gain a ton of value if he doesn't call, too, for obvious reasons. Be interested to hear what he had(and who he was for that matter).

James

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nice post. you too strassa.

[CrushinFelt]

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my standard would prob be to bet 20kish

what are thoughts on betting something gay like 10k and snap calling a shove?

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the 10k and calling a shove idea is capitalizing on the same human instinct that involves having sex in an elevator with a girl you just met in the elevator or the one that drives you to take your umbrella and smack the back of a new york yellow cabbie that pisses the [censored] out of you.

against the right guy in the right mindset, who acts impulsively and is checking his blackburry, drowning redbulls, and pulsating in his neck--go for it baby. i recommend starting in LA against an asian guy or against a random guy with a 50k watch on in workout clothes.

against the calculated, more articulate, calm internet pro who likely has seen this type of [censored] more times than you've watched porn in your life, bet 20k.

then when he shoves say [censored] and fold

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I'm assuming FWF fits into your description of calculated, calm internet pro? The same FWF that very seriously considered coming over the top of Viffer's same-size-as-turn river bet with air (busted draw)? Granted we'd much rather be doing this with a stronger kicker than the 2, but betting 10k with the intention of calling a shove seems about the same.

[blainestar]

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Not so thin..this is a black and white protect your bluffs value bet. If you'd ever fire off 20k with QJs here then you need to bet the ace. You start checking back top pair in a spot like this and you'll have a tough time firing 2 or 3 barrels in the future against observant opponents. You are likely ahead, and you gain a ton of value if he doesn't call, too, for obvious reasons. Be interested to hear what he had(and who he was for that matter).

James

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Nice post. Could you explain what the obv value of him not calling would be, besides not having to show down your hand.

[JooWish622]

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Not so thin..this is a black and white protect your bluffs value bet. If you'd ever fire off 20k with QJs here then you need to bet the ace. You start checking back top pair in a spot like this and you'll have a tough time firing 2 or 3 barrels in the future against observant opponents. You are likely ahead, and you gain a ton of value if he doesn't call, too, for obvious reasons. Be interested to hear what he had(and who he was for that matter).

James

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Nice post. Could you explain what the obv value of him not calling would be, besides not having to show down your hand.

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your turn gutshot floats remain respectable... because it looks like you have a mosnter here.

[James282]

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Not so thin..this is a black and white protect your bluffs value bet. If you'd ever fire off 20k with QJs here then you need to bet the ace. You start checking back top pair in a spot like this and you'll have a tough time firing 2 or 3 barrels in the future against observant opponents. You are likely ahead, and you gain a ton of value if he doesn't call, too, for obvious reasons. Be interested to hear what he had(and who he was for that matter).

James

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Nice post. Could you explain what the obv value of him not calling would be, besides not having to show down your hand.

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If your opponent doesnt know you can float a gutter on the bad board..you gain a lot of value in the future. When he folds the river you look disappointed, tap the table and rake the pot.

James

[The Gift Of Gab]

His opponent expected him to float everything.

[Bill King]

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my standard would prob be to bet 20kish

what are thoughts on betting something gay like 10k and snap calling a shove?

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the 10k and calling a shove idea is capitalizing on the same human instinct that involves having sex in an elevator with a girl you just met in the elevator or the one that drives you to take your umbrella and smack the back of a new york yellow cabbie that pisses the [censored] out of you.

against the right guy in the right mindset, who acts impulsively and is checking his blackburry, drowning redbulls, and pulsating in his neck--go for it baby. i recommend starting in LA against an asian guy or against a random guy with a 50k watch on in workout clothes.

against the calculated, more articulate, calm internet pro who likely has seen this type of [censored] more times than you've watched porn in your life, bet 20k.

then when he shoves say [censored] and fold

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[El Diablo]

GoG,

I heard he challenged his opponent to a series of HU matches online. Do you know anything about that?