WA/WB with second pair good kicker?

[Zeldark]

Raising for other solid reasons and getting information as you do is different than raising just to get information.

[jeanbaptiste36]

The read is for about 50 hands. Would that change things to a play?

[Zeldark]

I just get nitpicky when people use words like never, ever, always. There are some situations where it could be close between raising and calling and information you get with it is helpful so it pushes your decision towards a raise. On the other end, if your hand has little going for it raising for information just to define if you're beat or not is not worth it.

The (loose) analogy I'll use is like PF hand evaluation. 67o is connected. The idea of making straights is attractive, but alone it's rarely profitable. 67s has that connectivity but it's also suited. Now we have more going for it. Raising just for information is like limping with 67o in bad spots. Raising for other solid reasons that may also give information is like limping in position with many callers and 67s.

[Buckmulligan]

it's a nice hand. certainly a raise anywhere would be terrible. Certainly he has a worse hand frequently enough to get to showdown.

[bozlax]

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it's a nice hand. certainly a raise anywhere would be terrible. Certainly he has a worse hand frequently enough to get to showdown.

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Buck! Where've you been?

"Certainly"? 1 time in 3? Pfah.