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Old 07-08-2007, 06:59 PM
ChipLeader ChipLeader is offline
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Default Re: PS16- Terrible river card.

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Also with stacks I like the flop check a lot more since it sets up for a pretty easy check shove.

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Youre lovin the check shoves arent ya [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] (referencing AK post)

I can see the value in betting as well, though it occassionally means getting raised for my tournament life where I hate to call but hate to fold. As a general rule, i dont like making bets that leave me in a place where I hate both of my only options. But you are right, you do get some call downs from marginal hands.

Does OP have a result?
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: PS16- Terrible river card.

i would put him on j10 here.

really like the check shove idea, pudge.
i would ve played it the same as op but bet the river . still alot to learn i guess [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: PS16- Terrible river card.

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I don't think checking the flop is terrible. I don't think checking the river is terrible, but you have to call this here.


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Old 07-08-2007, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: PS16- Terrible river card.

Results: I called. Villain had Ah 7h for the nuts.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: PS16- Terrible river card.

While I don't think checking is bad I still like betting something on this flop.. even smallish like 225-275. They will have PPs missed Ax's and plenty of other things. KJ will probably raise you so except for KQ which might also raise you should be fine. It'll get you chips out of the flush draws also.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: PS16- Terrible river card.

what a bad call he made on turn , pot 400- hero bet 300 , put note calls with draws regardless of odss
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:06 AM
IFoldPktOnes IFoldPktOnes is offline
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Default Re: PS16- Terrible river card.

You can't really say this a bad call, given the play button might expect any ace on the river gives him the best hand. His position means he can check behind if an ace hits and can get extra value when his flush hits. He only needs to gain an extra ~300 chips on average when his flush hits to make his call correct. Although not betting the flop with such a strong draw and a big stack is pretty horrible.
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: PS16- Terrible river card.

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what a bad call he made on turn , pot 400- hero bet 300 , put note calls with draws regardless of odss

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looooool. putting that note on anyone would be a humungous waste of time.
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: PS16- Terrible river card.

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what a bad call he made on turn , pot 400- hero bet 300 , put note calls with draws regardless of odss

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looooool. putting that note on anyone would be a humungous waste of time.

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Also I think the turn could be the best street by him.
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