hand reading exercise - Page 3

Dan87 · #21 06-13-2007, 05:32 PM

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edit: the turn raise almost eliminates KK and QQ from PB's range imo. What kind of hand is he hoping utg will fold? Retards don't fold diamonds in big pots. Looks like a raise to charge a draw to me.

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KK could be raising for value here against an aggressive tricky opponent

JJH3984 · #22 06-13-2007, 05:40 PM

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edit: the turn raise almost eliminates KK and QQ from PB's range imo. What kind of hand is he hoping utg will fold? Retards don't fold diamonds in big pots. Looks like a raise to charge a draw to me.

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KK could be raising for value here against an aggressive tricky opponent

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Even when the opponent is aggro and tricky (which the read does not specify), when he five-bet caps the flop, bet/threebets the flop against a TAG and a calling station and leads the turn (still into a TAG and a calling station) on a A23 monotone board, he has a hand with an ace in it a majority of the time. Notice i didn't say PB never has KK here, but I think it needs to be discounted lots, especially since villain isn't described as tricky or aggro.

HollywoodDB · #23 06-13-2007, 05:41 PM

I vote for AKs no [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], until I here a little more about MP.

Dan87 · #24 06-13-2007, 05:41 PM

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mp is a young kid

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pretty much always = tricky bluffspewtard

KitCloudkicker · #25 06-13-2007, 06:29 PM

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mp is a young kid

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occasionally = tricky bluffspewtard

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FYP

Xhad · #26 06-13-2007, 06:42 PM

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if he does have KxKd that makes MP less likely to have AK, and more likely to have QxQd and bet the turn to represent the ace.

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Nice. But, wouldn't he 4bet the flop if he wanted UTG out?

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Because fish regularly coldcall 2 and then fold for 2 more?

Frond · #27 06-13-2007, 06:48 PM

Q Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or A Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] but I think you have one high diamond in your hand.

HollywoodDB · #28 06-13-2007, 07:15 PM

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if he does have KxKd that makes MP less likely to have AK, and more likely to have QxQd and bet the turn to represent the ace.

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Nice. But, wouldn't he 4bet the flop if he wanted UTG out?

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Because fish regularly coldcall 2 and then fold for 2 more?

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HollywoodDB · #29 06-13-2007, 07:19 PM

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Q Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or A Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] but I think you have one high diamond in your hand.

[/ QUOTE ]I don't think he is raising the turn with QQ and I don't think he is 4 betting preflop with AQo and if he did, I still dont think he is raising the turn with it.

rubberloon · #30 06-13-2007, 09:29 PM

High pair KK QQ JJ TT. Neither diamond flush nor A set. MP doesn't have flush. Did you win?